My competition sports/Adam tribute cues

[JamesK41]

Just wanted to share my Adam/competition sports tribute cues. Most of these are super rare and ultra hard to find. Hope you enjoy.

 

[HawaiianEye]

I have one from the Japan factory and it is top notch.

 

[Cuebuddy]

Fabulous collection. Amazing cues. Thanks for the pictures.

 

[Al_Camino]

Great collection of cues and the condition of them looks mint. Love the old Adam cues.

 

[Chopdoc]

Great collection.

 

[Cornerman]

Dirty little misunderstood secret… Competition Sport was not Adam Cues USA. It wasn’t a continuation of Adam. Nothing like that. They were a completely different entity started by Don Spetkar , who had no ownership in Adam. There seems to be a confusion that Competition Sports was an extension of Adam USA. It was not.

There’s more, but that’s enough. I can answer any question based on recent interviews (with everyone alive that had something to do with Adam USA and Competition Sports.)

 

[HawaiianEye]

Dirty little misunderstood secret… Competition Sport was not Adam Cues USA. It wasn’t a continuation of Adam. Nothing like that. They were a completely different entity started by Don Spektar, who had no ownership in Adam. There seems to be a confusion that Competition Sports was an extension of Adam USA. It was not.

There’s more, but that’s enough. I can answer any question based on recent interviews (with everyone alive that had something to do with Adam USA and Competition Sports.)

Isn't Don on AZB?

 

[JPB2]

I always liked those but never bought one. Probably should have. I think I called and talked to the guy Cornerman mentioned once. When I started playing several guys at the pool hall I went to had Adam cues and a couple had the fancy ones. Always liked the look.

 

[Cornerman]

Isn't Don on AZB?

Possibly. I interviewed him last month in my ongoing gathering of the Adam timeline and recorded everything so I didn’t misquote.

 

[sneakynito]

lol - i've been playing with one of the cues pictured for years, and everytime i think i know who made it/where i came from, someone comes in with an "aaaccttuaalllyyyy....." and then i have no idea again. whatever. it's a beautiful cue and plays wonderfully. i'm just gonna say santa made it from now on.

 

[Cornerman]

lol - i've been playing with one of the cues pictured for years, and everytime i think i know who made it/where i came from, someone comes in with an "aaaccttuaalllyyyy....." and then i have no idea again. whatever. it's a beautiful cue and plays wonderfully. i'm just gonna say santa made it from now on.

I think it’s just a case of nobody bothering or caring to ask. It’s amazing what people can find out if they ask. In my case, I had great interviews with:

Jed Foreman - son of David Foreman, founder of Adam Cues

Patty Vorilas - one of the earliest employees at Adam USA and the last owner of the initial iteration of Adam USA

Don Spetkar - former Adam employee and founder of Competition Sports

 

[sneakynito]

I think it’s just a case of nobody bothering or caring to ask. It’s amazing what people can find out if they ask. In my case, I had great interviews with:

Jed Foreman - son of David Foreman, founder of Adam Cues

Patty Vorilas - one of the earliest employees at Adam USA and the last owner of the initial iteration of Adam USA

Don Spetkar - former Adam employee and founder of Competition Sports

Who says I haven't asked? Point is i've been explicitly TOLD different things, about my exact model cue, and everyone figures themselves an authority. I've been told by a vendor still selling them it was a Balabushka HoF series, then an Adam, then a Competition Sports. Then you throw out 3 new names and I still don't know who's santa, because you'd rather be patronizing.

 

[Cornerman]

Who says I haven't asked? Point is i've been explicitly TOLD different things, about my exact model cue, and everyone figures themselves an authority. I've been told by a vendor still selling them it was a Balabushka HoF series, then an Adam, then a Competition Sports. Then you throw out 3 new names and I still don't know who's santa, because you'd rather be patronizing.

I didn’t realize you were asking.

What I’m saying is the people who seem to give a lot of answers to your previous questions, the vast majority have never actually asked anybody, but they’re just repeating what they heard on the Internet or what rumors they’ve heard. That seems to be true no matter what cue builder we’re talking about.

If for some reason, you’re pissed at me, forget I said anything. I don’t know anything about the cue you’re talking about since I don’t recall seeing it.

 

[HawaiianEye]

I think it’s just a case of nobody bothering or caring to ask. It’s amazing what people can find out if they ask. In my case, I had great interviews with:

Jed Foreman - son of David Foreman, founder of Adam Cues

Patty Vorilas - one of the earliest employees at Adam USA and the last owner of the initial iteration of Adam USA

Don Spetkar - former Adam employee and founder of Competition Sports

Were the Spetkar CS HOF cues made by the same workers and equipment in Japan as the ADAM cues?

 

[Cornerman]

Were the Spetkar CS HOF cues made by the same workers and equipment in Japan as the ADAM

This will be confusing, but Competiton Sports eventually did import Adam Japan cues including the HoF Cues, Competiton Sports was an importer, just like Adam NY/Adam USA/Sutra was before . The manufacturer was Adam Japan, who subcontracted to China. Kinda like different dealers can sell Kia and Hyundai.

 

[Cornerman]

This will be confusing, but Competiton Sports eventually did import Adam Japan cues including the HoF Cues, Competiton Sports was an importer, just like Adam NY/Adam USA/Sutra was before . The manufacturer was Adam Japan, who subcontracted to China. Kinda like different dealers can sell Kia and Hyundai.

Since Competition Sports was started in 1986, some imported Adam Cue would have been made in Japan if ordered before… 1995. Don had started focus for CS on lower cost manufacturing regions like Taiwan. Dave Forman didn’t like the idea and had nothing to do with it, but eventually had a financial stake in Competition Sports when he softened to the business model. But, per my earlier, it was a separate entity, started with no involvement from Adam NY.

 

[HawaiianEye]

This will be confusing, but Competiton Sports eventually did import Adam Japan cues including the HoF Cues, Competiton Sports was an importer, just like Adam NY/Adam USA/Sutra was before . The manufacturer was Adam Japan, who subcontracted to China. Kinda like different dealers can sell Kia and Hyundai.

So, the original HOF cues with the thick silver rings were made in CHINA?

If so, which factory?

Taiwan?

 

[Cornerman]

So, the original HOF cues with the thick silver rings were made in CHINA?

If so, which factory?

Taiwan?

Depends on what year.

Before 1995 - Saitama Japan
1995 -1997 ish - China with Adam Japan’s equipment and workers
1997+ China (Universal Cue by an Adam Japan’s worker’s account), but finished in Japan to get the Made in Japan sticker.

These all had the thick rings, but the Universal factory used a domed joint pin.

I think I’ve only seen the domed-pin HoF cues.

 

[Cornerman]

Depends on what year.

Before 1995 - Saitama Japan
1995 -1997 ish - China with Adam Japan’s equipment and workers
1997+ China (Universal Cue by an Adam Japan’s worker’s account), but finished in Japan to get the Made in Japan sticker.

These all had the thick rings, but the Universal factory used a domed joint pin.

I think I’ve only seen the domed-pin HoF cues.

The Taiwanese cues, especially today’s Balabushka Cue Company Balabushkas (owned by Peggy Mallen out of AZ) have thinner silver joint rings. Is Taiwan building copies of the Balabushka cue that the the BCC are having built? Probably.

 

[JamesK41]

Depends on what year.

Before 1995 - Saitama Japan
1995 -1997 ish - China with Adam Japan’s equipment and workers
1997+ China (Universal Cue by an Adam Japan’s worker’s account), but finished in Japan to get the Made in Japan sticker.

These all had the thick rings, but the Universal factory used a domed joint pin.

I think I’ve only seen the domed-pin HoF cues.

Here's both pins in my hof cues. The 3/8x10 on top with two balabushka's on the bottom next to a titilist. You can see the difference in pin profiles.