Why don't more bars lease Diamond pool tables?

vintagecollectibles831 said:
So, maybe the type of table would not even matter, in these bars. The banger's will enjoy playing on them no matter what.
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Pretty much. Although outside of downtown Austin, there are a decent selection of places to play beyond the likes of Skinny Bobs and Betsy's. If you're only referring to 6th Street, well it's a college town so there's your answer. (OT I once saw 2 guys and a girl playing on a 9ft Diamond red label. One of the guys was shooting by grabbing the cue ball and throwing it at object balls. This was at a pool room so bangers aren't exclusive to bars.) :P

If a watering hole has something beyond a beat up valley, that's just a bonus (unless you ask someone that doesn't like Diamonds.) But that's because we play pool. I can think of maybe 1 bar in a 30-40mi radius of me that has 7ft Diamond blue labels (they have 2.)

Location, location, location.
 
garczar said:
i know but this thread started with a discussion of shitty Valley bar balls. On D'monds you can use anything.
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Yeah I won't play on valleys. Last time I played on a valley was about 15 years ago. I went with my friend who played in an APA league. And we were killing time on their practice table. I started out with a 3 pack and he made us switch to alternate break so he could play too. We ended up playing 11 racks all bnrs. Haven't played on a valley since. That might not be true, but the older you get, the more the past tends to blend together and get out of order. lol
 
vintagecollectibles831 said:
When I lived in Evansville IN, it seemed like every single bar in the city had Diamond tables.

Here in Austin TX, it is all Valley tables, with Nasty old Mud Cue balls, in my experience.

Maybe it is just me, but I just can't enjoy playing pool at all, using a Mud cue ball, and I understand that they are varying degrees of bad, with them.

I randomly found this bar in Downtown Austin, which was a really nice and very classic looking bar, and they had a nice line of 5 Valley coin op tables. All with nasty old Mud cue balls on them.

I tried playing / hitting some balls on one of them, and it was just so horrible. I could not even finish, it was so un enjoyable.

I believe that Diamond offers a free lease on coin op tables, for half of the profit, from what I read somewhere a long time ago. Not sure if that is still the case though.

Don't you think that a lot more players would visit a bar if it offered Diamonds, or at least Valley's with a decent set of balls?

And, why is it that most Valley coin op tables usually have these nasty old mud balls, that look like they are maybe 30 years old?

The funny thing is, that the pool scene in Austin is very lively. People just love to play pool here. There are always people on all of the pool tables.

Back in Evansville, where it seemed like every bar had a Diamond, they were always empty, and I rarely ever seen anyone playing on them, other then at the real pool halls.

So, maybe the type of table would not even matter, in these bars. The banger's will enjoy playing on them no matter what.
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I don't want to shock you but most people don't care about pool. In most bars, the pool table is just an after thought.
 
for instance since a bar makes much more off draft beer then bottles. it would be foolish for them to feature or push bottles instead of off the tap.

same with their pool table they get a buck a game from bangers who just want to play and don't even think about the equipment.

so why pay to keep the pool table in better condition as it isn't going to increase usage enough to pay for the extra costs.
 
vintagecollectibles831 said:
When I lived in Evansville IN, it seemed like every single bar in the city had Diamond tables.

Here in Austin TX, it is all Valley tables, with Nasty old Mud Cue balls, in my experience.

Maybe it is just me, but I just can't enjoy playing pool at all, using a Mud cue ball, and I understand that they are varying degrees of bad, with them.

I randomly found this bar in Downtown Austin, which was a really nice and very classic looking bar, and they had a nice line of 5 Valley coin op tables. All with nasty old Mud cue balls on them.

I tried playing / hitting some balls on one of them, and it was just so horrible. I could not even finish, it was so un enjoyable.

I believe that Diamond offers a free lease on coin op tables, for half of the profit, from what I read somewhere a long time ago. Not sure if that is still the case though.

Don't you think that a lot more players would visit a bar if it offered Diamonds, or at least Valley's with a decent set of balls?

And, why is it that most Valley coin op tables usually have these nasty old mud balls, that look like they are maybe 30 years old?

The funny thing is, that the pool scene in Austin is very lively. People just love to play pool here. There are always people on all of the pool tables.

Back in Evansville, where it seemed like every bar had a Diamond, they were always empty, and I rarely ever seen anyone playing on them, other then at the real pool halls.

So, maybe the type of table would not even matter, in these bars. The banger's will enjoy playing on them no matter what.
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Not sure about now, but some years back Diamond used to run an add on leasing a Diamond bar box and it was just under $6 a day.
 
Rusty in Montana said:
On the above mentioned Valley tables and this varies from bar to bar they have either a wild roll or a dead spot on one or more rails or the object balls will sometimes roll into the cue ball return .

Granted I don't get to shoot / play on Diamond tables I've not experienced those issues with them .
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Diamond bar tables are real pool tables, not adult toys. They are a big step up from what came before them.
 
Just ran into an oversized cue ball out in the wild for the first time in a long time. Recovered 2 Dynamo bar boxes and one of them had the Aramith mesh ball and the other had an oversized cue ball.

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The place I play has all Diamonds, 9’s in the front and 7’s in the back for leagues. The guy that owns the place is a Diamond Dealer as well as owning a table
moving/repair/recovering business. Even he has a hard time keeping the bar boxes in good shape, those league people beat those tables to death.

He’ll recover them all and within a week the damage to the new cloth from bangers getting food stains on it because they can’t seem to reconcile that if you want to eat chicken wings, you should eat your wings, wash your hands and then reconvene play seems lost on the drunken league animals. They don’t respect anything.
 
Frosty said:
The place I play has all Diamonds, 9’s in the front and 7’s in the back for leagues. The guy that owns the place is a Diamond Dealer as well as owning a table
moving/repair/recovering business. Even he has a hard time keeping the bar boxes in good shape, those league people beat those tables to death.

He’ll recover them all and within a week the damage to the new cloth from bangers getting food stains on it because they can’t seem to reconcile that if you want to eat chicken wings, you should eat your wings, wash your hands and then reconvene play seems lost on the drunken league animals. They don’t respect anything.
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Sad but true , I play in two of the three pool leagues in the small town near my home , and we police the food eaters during a match rather closely so that doesn't happen often ,
 
Frosty said:
The place I play has all Diamonds, 9’s in the front and 7’s in the back for leagues. The guy that owns the place is a Diamond Dealer as well as owning a table
moving/repair/recovering business. Even he has a hard time keeping the bar boxes in good shape, those league people beat those tables to death.

He’ll recover them all and within a week the damage to the new cloth from bangers getting food stains on it because they can’t seem to reconcile that if you want to eat chicken wings, you should eat your wings, wash your hands and then reconvene play seems lost on the drunken league animals. They don’t respect anything.
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I find that in my room also.
Some that play in the evening leagues on the Diamond bar boxes have little or no respect for the equipment.
 
Rusty in Montana said:
Well come on out to the wilds of the middle of Montana and show me where these pool halls are that aren't 100 + miles away in just one direction ha ha when George Frank had the Corner Pocket Billards going strong many years ago yes pool halls were a bit more common until a host of things happened and they all faded into the sunset .
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But the OP said Austin, Texas, not Montana. Isn't everything a long drive away in Montana??
 
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