That is what I say, too.
One foul BIH opened the doors for lots of defensive strategies.
Intentional Fouls - Illegal, Good Strategy, or Poor Sportsmanship?
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One foul BIH opened the doors for lots of defensive strategies.
Funny how it's fair play or the hospital. lol...
This is the most unused play in 9 ball. That is, using the ball in play to do the heavy work. I saw Sigel do it ONE time. Not that I followed the guy around but that lone safety was a thing of beauty I still remember.
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What happens in a game if the incoming player doesn't call the foul?
In games like back pocket 9/10 (and variations depending on spot), the usual rule is that if the money ball moves on *any* foul, the other player has the option of putting it back where it was. (And get ball in hand.) So intentional fouls still allowed but not useful to just move the cheese toward your hole.
yes "where it was" might not be exactly where it was. close enough is good enough, and if not, it leads to entertaining discussions
yes "where it was" might not be exactly where it was. close enough is good enough, and if not, it leads to entertaining discussions
It also added fairness and symmetry to the game. "Bar rules" pool is the worst because an intentional foul requires little strategy or dexterity to do successfully, which is ironic because bar rules players are against playing defense.
Well Honest effort came from the ring game. Er uh well was employed in the ring game. After honest effort and foul, the incoming shooter had the option to take the next shot or give it back. Never ball in hand. Always if lowest ball is in kitchen it spots.
The parking lot comes under player awareness.
Gotta know where you are and who you are at all times. Cole told of asking the proprietary guy, "how about I give you All your money back and I just leave?" Somewhere in the deep south so when unanswered he asked, " how about I give you all mine too and leave?" To "Okay."
Well when playing for fun with family and friends I am acting as an Ambassador to the game. So bastardized rules are not allowed. We play to BCA standards.
When encounter with new person on a bar table the topic of money is addressed First. Well, was! As it's been ages since I played in the taverns after work.
A first game would often trigger, "for a beer?" Enquiring would welcome a "make it 5."reply.
Would get a "how about 10?" Responce.
Once the stakes are established the rules comes next. "BCA rules?" is my next question. "Bullshit rules?" Would be my ask to a No BCA Responce.
If they could explain beforehand chances are I would play their rules.
I hate that 8 ball doesn't have a 3 foul rule.
in a bar ask for the rules. and just do whatever they tell you is right.
as they are going to lose anyway so why not just go along with them.
in a bar,, pool room or tournament rules,,, do not ever come into play unless you are playing a pool room player and agree to such.
if you are having a foot race with a fat guy, do you argue over if his foot is past the starting line ?
as they are going to lose anyway so why not just go along with them.
in a bar,, pool room or tournament rules,,, do not ever come into play unless you are playing a pool room player and agree to such.
if you are having a foot race with a fat guy, do you argue over if his foot is past the starting line ?
The BCA tried that for a year or two as an optional rule. The obvious problem is when you run all but one ball. If your opponent can play a little safety, you will lose on three fouls.
Please outline a situation where you have multiple balls on the table playing 8 ball, have no shot even a safety to where if you screw up, you will lose the game.
Also include how it is easier to execute shooting the 8 ball into this cluster of balls than playing a legit shot or safety.
There are times when you are just going to lose the game - move on to the next.
Deliberate fouls are often made out of complete desperation that lead to a loss anyway if you opponent is skilled enough.
I can think of one rule set (Ultimate Pool) where this is a no-no. Other rule sets this action leads to a foul, loss of turn & ball in hand for you opponent.
I wouldn't call it bad sportsmanship, illegal or a good strategy.
That’s the penalty for not running out
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Say you're playing one pocket and player A has his game ball hanging in his hole. Player B can't just follow it in because there are still loose balls on the table that player A can pocket with ball in hand from behind the line.
So player B pockets the hanging Ball but double hits the cue ball with the tip of his cue leaving the cue ball hanging in player A's hole with the ball now pocketed. Ball goes on the spot, cue ball hanging in the hole, player a comes back to the table.
Would this be legal?
So player B pockets the hanging Ball but double hits the cue ball with the tip of his cue leaving the cue ball hanging in player A's hole with the ball now pocketed. Ball goes on the spot, cue ball hanging in the hole, player a comes back to the table.
Would this be legal?
The ball pocketed in the opponent's pocket does not spot up. That ball spots only if the cue ball is pocketed and no other foul is committed.
(In the old days, the cue ball leaving the table would also get the ball spotted, but that rule has mostly gone away.)
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