Is straights making a come back?

trob

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Just wondering how it’s going around the country with straight pool leagues? 35 years a go they were big when I first started playing. A few have popped up here and there. A decent handicap one has been running across the river for a while. I recently joined an in house one at a local club. There are the only place you’ll find 9 foot tables in my town. I was surprised to find 40 players in it. I always respected the game but never had the patience for it. Now it’s the league I most look forward to playing. It’s such a difficult game. Im a 7/9 in apa 8 ball and 9 ball but I would like a 4 if I there was an apa straight pool leagues. lol I’ll pull some runs in the teens but I’m more focused on winning the safety battles and playing good patterns then stringing racks together . I’m winning matches but it’s nothing pretty. I feel I’m getting a little better every day. I’m 54 and I’d like to be able to run my age by this time next year but might be asking a lot lol did I mention its a hard ass game. lol

anyway back to the question.. is york unusual or is anyone else seeing the game starting to rise in popularity again?
 
A buddy and I play a modified version which I've dubbed APA-Straight. All normal scoring, and a handicapped race, however full slop and ball in hand for any fouls. This made the game much more friendly for my buddy who is a beginner. You should see the looks we get, 99% of the folks there have no idea what we're doing, and I get to explain it often, which I don't mind. If someone actually shows interest I tell them to go look up John Schmidt. I do play legit straight at home and indeed it's a difficult game, especially with tight pockets. Just doesn't make sense how unforgiving a game can be when you can literally hit any ball on the table, haha.
 
It will never come back for tv for sure.. I’m talking about amateurs playing it.
A pro 9 ball player told me when I was learning the game, it was one of the very best ways to get better.
Focus, patterns, cue ball control, pressure, knowing your own make/ position percentages...it has it all.
I think many people just want to play whatever they see the pros on tv playing.
 
A pro 9 ball player told me when I was learning the game, it was one of the very best ways to get better.
Focus, patterns, cue ball control, pressure, knowing your own make/ position percentages...it has it all.
I think many people just want to play whatever they see the pros on tv playing.
He's correct. My game wouldn't be anywhere near the level it is without the things I learned playing 14:1.
I'm fortunate in that straight pool was the first game I learned how to play. I routinely use shots I learned in 14:1 these young players have never seen while playing other games. Caroms, wired combos and throws, cheating pockets, using other balls to stop or aid my CB shape, a myriad of things.
All I need now is a good dose of one pocket safeties and pocketing speed tutorials... zzz...😴 Just kidding. 😉
 
Shakespeare’s Hamlet coined the phrase It’s “caviar to the general” public, meaning that a person who had not been introduced to haute cuisine would bridle at the idea that fish eggs are a delicacy.

For the initiated, straight pool is the cat’s pajamas. Do I date myself with that expression? It means straight pool is “the pants on a Roxie usher.” And straight pool is about as out of date as those two expressions.

But it is still gorgeous.

Small story. I was years ago at a straight pool championship in Chicago. I ran into a person I knew but who was from the dark, backward Midwest where they had never seen straight pool. He suggests that we make sweat bets on that day’s matches. He asks me whom I like in the first match. “Lassiter,” I say. He answers, “Yeah, sure. Everybody likes Lassiter. You’d have to give me weight.” Matches are to 150 points. I ask, “Well, how much weight do you need?” He thinks for a second and says, “I’d need thirty-five points.”

Have you ever had a spiritual revelation? I realize in an instant that this guy, who is a really sharp cookie back between Boon and Docks, has no idea what major league straight pool looks like. I, in a previous stage in my life, had been a semi-regular in McGirr’s Billiards on Eighth Avenue, waiting on a bus back to Jersey from the Port Authority, just down the street. I groan and grumble, I hesitate, and I finally, unwillingly concede thirty-five points to Luther Lassiter’s opponent. I realize I have to play this nice and slow. Don’t lose this fish!

I point out to my acquaintance that I have made such a bad bet he should give me a chance to get even. We should probably bet on some of the other matches so I at least have a chance. It’s a round robin. We bet on six more matches. Keep in mind that at this point nobody has as yet stroked a ball in the tournament. The secret has not been revealed. We make six more bets, and in every match I take the favorite and give weight. I don’t remember exactly what the names were, but my stable looks something like Luther Lassiter, Irving Crane, Joe Balsis, Dallas West, a young Jim Rempe, Jack Colavita ( look him up), and Cisero Murphy, in that order. And the most I am spotting anybody is that thirty-five points Lassiter has to overcome. (Yeah, I’ve got Jack Colavita, but you’re getting twenty points on the wire. Good luck feeding your family with that!)

Lassiter now plays the match we have bet on. The horses run true to previous form. My acquaintance sees the outcome. He also sees the winning margin. He evaporates. He becomes a vapor. For the rest of the tournament, he’s nowhere to be seen. What he doesn’t know is that eventually three of my champions wind up spitting the bit and, not overcoming the saddl weight of the point spread, let the other horse poke his nose across the wire first. I can’t believe it. I had a mortal lock, but as we begin the seventh match I am dead even. And I’ve got my money on Cisero Murphy, with whom it is always a question whether his loopy stroke will hold up through one hundred and fifty points,

It does. “Ain’t nuthin’ dead solid perfect,” but I finish one unit ahead.

For another thirty or forty years I would bump into my acquaintance, and never once did he ever mention that we had made several wagers in Chicago, and how did that come out? I don’t think he even watched any of our matches after Lassiter lapped the field. Never a word about any transactions we may have made in The Windy City, and we must have seen one another sixty or seventy times. I never raised the matter. I wanted to see how long he could maintain his guilty silence.

It has occurred to me over the years that the only way the story could have been sweeter would be if Murphy had lost.
 
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For another thirty or forty years I would bump into my acquaintance, and never once did he ever mention that we had made several wagers in Chicago, and how did that come out? I don’t think he even watched any of our matches after Lassiter lapped the field. Never a word about any transactions we may have made in The Windy City, and we must have seen one another sixty or seventy times. I never raised the matter. I wanted to see how long he could maintain his guilty silence. ...
Nice. Sometimes it's more satisfying to be stiffed.
 
Just wondering how it’s going around the country with straight pool leagues? 35 years a go they were big when I first started playing. A few have popped up here and there. A decent handicap one has been running across the river for a while. I recently joined an in house one at a local club. There are the only place you’ll find 9 foot tables in my town. I was surprised to find 40 players in it. I always respected the game but never had the patience for it. Now it’s the league I most look forward to playing. It’s such a difficult game. Im a 7/9 in apa 8 ball and 9 ball but I would like a 4 if I there was an apa straight pool leagues. lol I’ll pull some runs in the teens but I’m more focused on winning the safety battles and playing good patterns then stringing racks together . I’m winning matches but it’s nothing pretty. I feel I’m getting a little better every day. I’m 54 and I’d like to be able to run my age by this time next year but might be asking a lot lol did I mention its a hard ass game. lol

anyway back to the question.. is york unusual or is anyone else seeing the game starting to rise in popularity again?

The problem is that except perhaps on the East Coast, maybe Chicago, there is no tradition of 14.1 -- it has died out.

Players today don't even have a clue about the game -- it's gone.

Lou Figueroa
Line Up, anyone?
 
There is a league in Houston that plays at Bogies West. They have about 15 players. Off and on there has been a league at legends in league city. Other than that 14.1 sitings are just myths like big foot or the Loch Ness monster.
 
I like it and we were told to play it as beginners so we’d learn some things. That said, it is dead in the US pretty much. We had a schedule your own league that didn’t really work. They might try to resurrect it with a different schedule. And we’ll get 15 players, maybe more, in a city smaller than Houston. Houston, a huge city, has 15 or so as posted above. I don’t see it getting popular; if it survives at all that would be good.
 
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