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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    "It's skill and record." That's the part I'm hung up on a bit. I've noticed, not surprisingly, that it looks like all the east coast posters have voted for Sigel. Varner seems to be getting his votes from the rest of the country. When it comes to our favorite players, there's usually some...
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    Question about this match Efren is playing

    Think it's: Playing 10 Ball Efren is getting the Wild 9 & 10. Maybe opponent has to call the 10??? Plus Efren gets 1 game on the wire. Score is 15 to 16 going to 18.
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Not exactly a surprising confession.
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    That will be the basic plot of Varner III. That will be our straight to video YouTube film. I'll probably give you full writing credits for this one. Varner I and II will star an AI'd Gene Wilder. He'll be replaced with Frank Stallone for Varner III, Return of the Sigel.
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Meanwhile, Mike is closing the gap. It seems Cornerman, sjm, and jay helfert are swaying the voters. 58/42. Nick
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Now you're just trying to get writing credits. I see right through you Ben Afflect.
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Now that I've spent nearly 7 minutes on this script, I may be able to justify and expense some screen-writing research. Maybe our paths will cross. If not this year then "one of these years"!
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Sorry -- no can do. I envision our Nick wandering the seas, the jungles, and the cities with nothing more than the cash for his wager and his battered, lonely companion cue -- that accompanied him on his journey.
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Invited? You will be contractually obligated to attend, as you will have 13 cameos. A Hollywood record, I might add. You'll be strategically located in the crowd of every actual pool scene. An homage paid to all real pool fans. Only us fans will understand.
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Thanks. In my Hollywood "based on a true story" version, Nick goes there all alone in search of the Filipino pool master, to avenge the humiliating defeat he suffered back home, and to restore his country's good name. Since I'm in charge of directing this film, I'll throw in a few beautiful...
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Are there any details floating around about the Efren vs. Varner match in the Philippines? Did Varner really go half way around the world, after already knowing how good Efren was, to play him on his home turf, in front of his fans? Only to walk away with the cash? That's Hollywood type...
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Another thing that cost Efren some wins over the years was his pride in his kicking ability. Yes, he was the best that ever did it BUT the fact that he never jumped balls is crazy. If a top pro did that today, they would probably never win a tourney. I know Efren usually hit the ball he kicked...
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    I'm sure others will chime in but I've always thought talk of his "weak break" was always exaggerated. There's zero chance someone with a weak break could have beaten Earl Strickland in their famous extended matchup. Was his break elite? Probably not, but in comparison to Johnny Archer or...
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    I know they always do their awards in neat decade divisons (e.g. 80's, 90's, etc), but it's looking like Sigel's best run may have been 77-87 or so. Sort of post Miz, pre Earl. Lots of good info in the thread and I see the poll does allow you to change your vote if anyone has been swayed.
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Looks like 1980 is the first year for their Player of the Year Award. I just posted it for the record. I looked up the World 14.1 Championship and this what I found: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Straight_Pool_Championship Sigel won: 1979 1981 1988 2nd Place: 1980 Varner won: 1980...
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Found this list: Billiards Digest Players of the Year MEN 1980 Nick Varner (Owensboro, Ky.) 1981 Mike Sigel (Towson, Md.) 1982 Buddy Hall (Paducah, Ky.) 1983 Steve Mizerak (Spring Hill, N.J.) 1984 Earl Strickland (Houston, Texas) 1985 Earl Strickland (Houston, Texas) 1986...
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Nick is pulling ahead. 60 - 40 Better call all Mike's fans and get them to vote. There's a lot riding on this. I haven't shared all the behind the scenes goings-on but I've heard all those who cast a vote will be placed in a raffle, with the winner getting 50 percent off a AZ Billiards...
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    Wanting to win and it being an all consuming passion isn't the same thing. I agree most Filipinos do have great attitudes. Some are a bit more fierce than others though. Orcullo comes to mind. He never let's off the gas.
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    One other thing about Efren... I really don't think he cared as much about winning as most other great players did. He clearly played for the love of the game. Misses and losses seemed to roll right off his back. His positive attitude probably played a large part in his longevity, as the game...
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    Who You Got? Mike Sigel or Nick Varner

    I don't think we are disagreeing, maybe I was just being a little charitable toward Efren. My point was Efren just kept playing while the original cast of characters like Sigel, Varner, Hall, Rempe, Parica, and a few others retired or faded as their prime playing days were behind them. A lot of...
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