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Also with Fedor -- the US has zero chance of ever winning if he doesn't play great. Zero. Might as well play him and hope he turns it around. If he doesn't, we better make room for Shaw because Matchroom will be forcing him on us if we can't compete. :) The show must go on!!!

I understand putting someone over SVB at this point since we have years of data on him, and honestly - his game away from the Mosconi has ALWAYS included random bad misses that he could outrun. His game has never been ideal for the MC. The MC has always been more about how bad you can play (your...

Allison is actually cue ball on the backstroke, object ball on the forward stroke.

1. Woodward (best US player for several years now). 2. Gorst (He's still a World Champion and Tyler is not). 3. Tyler/SVB (tough call) 5. Thorpe

Yeah. 10 years ago, both would have helped the cause. Now -- Alex's game wouldn't hold up in the Mosconi and Morra is about Oscar's speed. What's going on in Canada? It seems their slow divorce from snooker (fell out of love) is limiting their development of pool talent too.

How is it different??? Rarely, if ever is a local tourney capped as high as you've mentioned. So I think the actual complaint is being confused. Most people aren't REALLY complaining about cutoffs in general, it's just how they're implemented. So for all intents and purposes tourney directors...

I don't know...I think I know the type. There's a time and a place for fun play. I actually do it all the time, but specifically teaching one-pocket out of the blue to a stranger can be absolutely brutal. Once you see someone regularly and know they are genuinely interested in learning, as...

He didn't badly flub that leave. It was actually sort of a bad roll. Anywhere but right there and Fedor could have more easily worked the cue ball into position. Sure he wanted to roll down a bit further but that's what happens when forced to cross the positional line. One more or one less cue...

It's crazy how advanced safety play has gotten. The US actually did decent in that department, but like usual, our best players didn't carry their own weight, let alone lift the team.

Of course we are talking about pool players so there will be some of this, but overall I think iutbr's point about using more arbitrary cutoffs is a good idea and my quiet complaint about players north of 650 being in purgatory is legit. Once you reach this area it gets harder to play anything...

Poor mic discipline. They moved away from the mics and the volume didn't change! I'm about 85 percent certain they're lip-synching!

See folks -- he does have a soul in there somewhere. Happy Thanksgiving!!! Go LIONS!

I also think we exaggerate the need for handicapping. I'd say most players I talk to don't want/need a 100% handicap. Most players are probably content with a very light game spot. So when a room runs a successful weekly tournament that ends up drying up -- we always blame the handicapping...

I figured you were inching towards making such a point :) I didn't use the word "wasteland". Not sure who you're quoting there in your response to me. I believe good to really great amateurs are slowly being squeezed out. It's not really a new problem due to Fargo Ratings. It's just more...

Mainly open I think. May be some league data from years ago when I played a session. I've played in a couple Fargo capped events over the years, that were capped to keep out the one local pro. I really don't play much, which is why I don't have much data. You seem quite curious. Is there a...

Just local tourneys. I still have low robustness. Barely over 200 games.

I know this thread isn't about me but I will complain one more time about pool purgatory. Historically, if you were to look up the definition of an amateur -- I would fit the definition to a T. I haven't rubbed elbows with the big boys hardly at all in my playing days. Heck, I've never even put...

Yep. Fargo does a great job rating players of all shapes and sizes but we should always keep it in perspective. If you used a performance based rating in other sports, would the expectation become that a NCAA level female sprinter would have to compete against say - high school males since...

I have no idea what I just read.

I fall right between you and iutbr. The trouble with pool is so much is going on with the grip hand/wrist. This is where most of the feel is at and it's not something that you can just video and then replicate. Then nearly imperceptible changes can make an enormous difference. This is where even...