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  1. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    It's not about the no refund. That's not the point. If he doesn't want to refund the money, fine. But don't resell that spot and get twice the money for one spot. That's the point. If you don't want to have byes, then refund money if you fill that spot. One or the other. At the very least offer...
  2. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    I don't care what you think.
  3. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    He said they should open the field. Just read what he wrote... it's super easy. And they should open the field. If you're going to have a tournament, get as many people as possible. More players equals more prize money equals more $50 "non your fees" (another shady af business practice).
  4. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    It's in my neck of the woods as well... but there's a lot of pool tours up here. Sorry, wrong is wrong. He doesn't have to care. Doesn't have to care about the players... clearly he doesn't. I understand a lot of people like him and clearly they're go to bat for him. And he may have done a lot...
  5. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    If you support and defend shady business practices, I'll judge your morals all day. And I'll judge his no matter how many tournaments he's held as if that's supposed to put him on Mt Rushmore. As long as he keeps doing this, I'll speak out against it. I don't care what he's done or plans to do...
  6. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    Exactly, he fills his field and that's all he cares about. If he can get lucky and have a dozen or so players drop out... bonus money, the shady way. Like I said, if that's not shady to you, your morals are questionable. Oh well, that's pool for ya.
  7. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    I appreciate that you think I'm a decent person and yes, I speak my mind and speak out when I see something... which is why I posted this. I feel what he's doing is wrong. I don't care if he tattoos the policy on his forehead, it's a bad business practice and he might not ever feel the hurt of...
  8. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    That was, in fact, the point of the thread.
  9. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    No clue. Don't really care either. If I paid my entry and couldn't get it back, you better give me a forfeit and not fill the spot. Getting paid twice is shady af.
  10. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    It's a totally different situation. A hotel, for the most part you can book the day before. Same with a rental car. You don't have to book these things 9 months before... That's the difference. I recently booked a non refundable flight through delta. My connecting flight through American...
  11. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    That's fine.
  12. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    No problem with him making money, just make it in a non shady way. Shouldn't be tough. He's def making money thanks to the casino.
  13. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    Not at all. The point is, people have seeing others make money in shady ways. If you don't think it's shady, then you're probably also a shady person.
  14. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    I can promise you, he's doing much better than breaking even on these events. The casino gives me VERY good money just to hold the event and draw people in. He's got the best deal in pool... But that's not the point.
  15. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    BINGO! Watchez gets it! How is this so tough?
  16. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    The previous Turning Stone tournament was the first week of January. Let's say I went to play and took my wife up to watch. After she saw me destroy a top pro, she couldn't resist herself that night and we made passionate love. The next morning, I also signed up to play the next Turning Stone...
  17. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU
  18. cleary

    New Predator Break Cue is out

    Can't wait to try it. I use my Revo to play and break with. Love it.
  19. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    Yea you should come down hard on someone who can no longer attend because they're having a child around that date. Or their sister is getting married and her selfish ass wouldn't reschedule around my tournament life. Come down hard on these everyday people who make that tournament tick...
  20. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    I have no issue with a no refund policy. My issue is if you have that policy, don't resell the spot and double dip. That's shady and if you don't think so, you're probably a shady person yourself.
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