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In general, what kind of shot set up would give the best results/effects for this spin of the 2nd rail? I'd like to practice just the concept itself, irrespective of making the OB. I just want to see how the CB can hit the 1st rail with the extreme side spin, yet not 'take' until the 2nd rail...

In re-reading my post, it may have been unclear. I shot about 8 to 10 times before I got my 1st 20. Just 1 20, then I stopped. I haven't shot on a 9 footer in close to 20 years, and I was not capable of getting a 20 on any table back then. I can't imagine how hard that would be, the felt...

I have a 7 ft Valley with Mercury Ultra Cloth and I got the 20 in about 8 to 10 tries. I almost scratched in the side, off by 2 inches. I would think I could scratch in the corner as this is appears to be a 5 to 8 degree cut. I bet my friend with his z2 could hit the rail before the corner...

No longer looking, thanks everyone!

I think the deal on the butt and 314-2 for $175 his hard to beat, after that, I'm just looking for a 314-2 with that joint type, which would be about $240 new from Ozone, Seyberts, etc.

I'm looking for this shaft and particular joint and also this shaft with any joint with a butt. The butt can be any type, I'm not looking for an expensive one. There is a current seller of the 5/16 x 18 that fits a cuetec butt, which I've already inquired about. In that case, I would need one...

I actually have 2 friends looking for predators, one has his own Meucci butt, which I think uses this 5/16 x 18 joint. The other friend needs a new stick with the predator shaft. Your offer fits the needs for either of them but not both. I've sent out an email to my friend and gave him your...

I have a friend that is interested in the players cue with the predator shaft. Do you know what tip is on it? What form of payment would you be looking for?

I was looking to upgrade my invitational to mercury ultra on a 7' Valley. Even though the current cloth is not very old and is in good shape, the table just plays too slow in my basement. The rails are also new. In choosing the same cloth color, should I have the rails recovered as well as...

Oh, so the cutout actually rests on the OB, an inch or 2 off the table, gotcha.

I've never combined the 2 on a shot, both PRL and BHE, but I have run across times when it would have been useful. If my cue's pivot is 12 inches, and I want to apply 1 tip of right english offset to a ball that I can only bridge from 6 inches, I throw out BHE bc I know I will get too much...

Is the ball in the cutout supposed to be large enough to fit through the top of the OB, or do you pick up the OB and place this template down, then place the OB back inside the middle of the cutout? For it to fit through, the cut out hole would have to be 2 1/4, and it seems smaller than that...

Thanks JustBanger, I will try that tonight. My only break on the bar league table friday netted 1 ball and 5 others across the table with no clusters and I was using a 17 oz house cue.

I do know there is no point on making balls on the break in Fargo, but there is a point of diminishing returns, I'm usually looking at 12 balls on 1 half, a nice cluster of 5 to 8 near the rack, and 1 more cluster, requiring 3 break out shots on some racks, which is beyond my C to B- skill level...

2 other things that have helped. 1) Getting my own stick years ago, vs my house cue which wasn't exactly portable. I eventually put a predator 314 2 on my own cue, and that also elevated my game. 2) When visualizing the line thru center of the OB to the pocket from the nearest rail while...

My breaking woes are so bad, I'm now keeping track of balls that stay over half the table. I played 5 games tonight, and scored a 35. I'm going to play 10 innings or 100 racks, and it's looking like I'm going to score between 700 and 850, so this is on the borderline. On 5 breaks, I failed to...

1) Hitting the CB with no horizontal offset (no sidespin) when that was my actual intention. It took me years of trial and error to truly realize I was imparting right side spin on most every shot. It was mostly subtle enough to not effect pocketing balls, although it did cause misses on...

Just played this game for the first time in years on my house table. It was quite the mixed bag. It's hard to get good action on the break on my table, I only made 1 ball 3 times on the break which I of course spotted per the rules. Not having a good spread off the break really inhibited my...

I bought a 7 ft Valley within the past year, and I'm having a strange issue where the rebound angle on Narrower angles comes up much too short. Some of the pertinent information and conditions of this table that I can think of are: 1) The bumpers are within 2 years old and purchased from a...

This is not the G-Core or the I shaft, rather it is the standard maple by McDermott. These shafts retail for $115, I'm asking $65 obo. The tip is 13 mm and the shaft has the Gold RailRoad design by the joint. I bought this shaft slightly used with a Lucky Seven butt and played with it for...