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10-12-2019, 01:41 PM

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The term 'visual' is used ONLY in conjunction with CTE.
You need to get out more.

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Don't sell yourself short - thinking CTE works differently than other systems is very imaginative.

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10-12-2019, 01:58 PM

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you need to get out more.


Don't sell yourself short - thinking cte works differently than other systems is very imaginative.

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10-12-2019, 03:06 PM

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I can't talk for other people but I can tell you the bumps I had. They all related to repeatability.

You must stand in the same relative position to the OB - CB line.

The pivot or sweep must be the same amount. Bridge distance must be the same if using a manual pivot. Tip placement must be the same too.

The drop to center CB must be straight down.

You must have a straight stroke.

CTE is an advanced aiming system with many 'moving parts'. If you're a casual player it's hard to keep all the pieces running smoothly. My suggestion for someone who wishes to learn the system is to do a lot of stroke exercises. Without a good stroke you won't be consistent with system.


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Thanks for your reply, an i agree with you one hundred percent. Manual pivoting requires exactness from start to the end .

Not trying to argue here but when one has exactness in
His routine, the output should always be the same, do you agree? Ive ventured into pivoting for sometime now, ive also had the pleasure of talking with Hal and RON may they rest in peace. These 2 really got me into trying to figure out is there just 2 or 3 moves with a pivot for all shots??? After realizing if you didn't pay attention to your body line up...bridge length., maybe there was only a few shots.

I had a problem though, consistency wasnt there.
Now i really started dialing in on my bridge length, making sure it was always the same. That was it, now ive got more consistency on the same line up creating the same output.

Now ive got a different problem, im missing more shots.
I realised that basing my pivots off of 3 places wasn't enough, something had to change. So i decided to add more than 3 alignments, problem solved.

In my opinion being exact could hurt your chances going off 3 alingments, unless you dont pay to much attention to your bridge length an you let the eyes decide what looks good.


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10-12-2019, 04:24 PM

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Thanks for your reply, an i agree with you one hundred percent. Manual pivoting requires exactness from start to the end .

Not trying to argue here but when one has exactness in
His routine, the output should always be the same, do you agree? Ive ventured into pivoting for sometime now, ive also had the pleasure of talking with Hal and RON may they rest in peace. These 2 really got me into trying to figure out is there just 2 or 3 moves with a pivot for all shots??? After realizing if you didn't pay attention to your body line up...bridge length., maybe there was only a few shots.

I had a problem though, consistency wasnt there.
Now i really started dialing in on my bridge length, making sure it was always the same. That was it, now ive got more consistency on the same line up creating the same output.

Now ive got a different problem, im missing more shots.
I realised that basing my pivots off of 3 places wasn't enough, something had to change. So i decided to add more than 3 alignments, problem solved.

In my opinion being exact could hurt your chances going off 3 alingments, unless you dont pay to much attention to your bridge length an you let the eyes decide what looks good.

Yes, I agree. Exactness leads to consistency and it's the key to avoid slumps and that "how da F did I miss that?" I check my body position first because I switch between shish-kabob and CTE. They use different body positions. (s-b is quicker) Then bridge, grip, and elbow. I think trying to play too fast can be the start of my problems because I'm sloppy with one of these.


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If I can find an open spot in his schedule, I plan on returning in the spring for a week of study on banks. I've watched him, with my own eyes, pocketing those 2, 3, and 4 rail banks and it isn't because he was "born in Kentucky" or "has hit a million banks" either. KNOWLEDGE is the key!
Just curious: Are you saying that Stan was not an expert banker before he learned CTE?


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Just curious: Are you saying that Stan was not an expert banker before he learned CTE?
Well, well, well.....look who showed up again. Didn't take you long to jump back on the bandwagon did it.
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Well, well, well.....look who showed up again. Didn't take you long to jump back on the bandwagon did it.
Here's something "curious"......ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee
Enjoy.
Ha Ha, good one. I'm a dog. Funny. I'm not sure what bandwagon you are talking about. I'm simply interested to know what Stan's background with banking is since you spent a whole week up there. Not that difficult a question.


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Ha Ha, good one. I'm a dog. Funny. I'm not sure what bandwagon you are talking about. I'm simply interested to know what Stan's background with banking is since you spent a whole week up there. Not that difficult a question.
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For him it was.
Looks like no reply is forthcoming. Anybody else know whether Stan could bank a ball before he learned CTE? Seems like it would be a nice feather in the cap of CTE if his banking skills improved significantly after he figured out the nuts and bolts of CTE, no?


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For him it was.
OK, let me try from another angle. Do you think Stan informed Low500 of his banking background before demonstrating those 4 rail banks "using CTE"?


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OK, let me try from another angle. Do you think Stan informed Low500 of his banking background before demonstrating those 4 rail banks "using CTE"?
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Here is a treat for you also...jump boy, jump like a nice boy.

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Thanks for your reply, an i agree with you one hundred percent. Manual pivoting requires exactness from start to the end .

Not trying to argue here but when one has exactness in
His routine, the output should always be the same, do you agree? Ive ventured into pivoting for sometime now, ive also had the pleasure of talking with Hal and RON may they rest in peace. These 2 really got me into trying to figure out is there just 2 or 3 moves with a pivot for all shots??? After realizing if you didn't pay attention to your body line up...bridge length., maybe there was only a few shots.

I had a problem though, consistency wasnt there.
Now i really started dialing in on my bridge length, making sure it was always the same. That was it, now ive got more consistency on the same line up creating the same output.

Now ive got a different problem, im missing more shots.
I realised that basing my pivots off of 3 places wasn't enough, something had to change. So i decided to add more than 3 alignments, problem solved.

In my opinion being exact could hurt your chances going off 3 alingments, unless you dont pay to much attention to your bridge length an you let the eyes decide what looks good.
Hmm...6 alignments. What are they exactly? Are you using 8ths? Also, are you varying bridgelenght with shot distance? If so, are you using single, double diamond distances or other measurments? Just curious what your findings are?

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Looks like no reply is forthcoming. Anybody else know whether Stan could bank a ball before he learned CTE? Seems like it would be a nice feather in the cap of CTE if his banking skills improved significantly after he figured out the nuts and bolts of CTE, no?
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