Would like to see some pics of Freds cues, preferably soft joint big pin cues if anyone has one.
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Ive seen the ones Tad did and owned a couple, im more interested in the new cues coming out of the shop.
Johnnybgood
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Here are the two “Fred” cues I own. I sold the other and have 2 other TAD made cues.
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Johnnybgood
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Very nice Johnny B, ive always thought about picking up another one and am curious what the distinction is between the Tads and the cues Fred is making. Are the signatures the same?
Johnnybgood
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The logo is the same. I generally played a steal joint before moving to the big pin Fred cue. I don’t see any workmanship differences and the playability on this big pin is excellent. I have nothing negative to say about the Fred cues and furthermore highly recommend them. However there are few new ones available. I think a lot of people have been apprehensive but I can assure you they are great. If you are going to play the cue, give it some time to break in as I mentioned.
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was that true with tad's too ?
Johnnybgood
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Yes! My original pictures here took time to break in but, I wasn’t as attentive decades ago. I have another TAD Zebra wood cue (pictured here) that I am starting to break in. I can tell it’s making progress and that makes it a more enjoyable cue to play. When you first get them they don’t have the hit you would think they should have. You have to be patient and then they come alive. 
I can’t say that the big pin vs the steal joint play any better. They are different. They both play great. My original is a much older cue and therefore the wood is now harder etc. so I can’t do an A/B comparison. The new Zebra wood cue based on what I am seeing will most likely play like my original.
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I can’t say that the big pin vs the steal joint play any better. They are different. They both play great. My original is a much older cue and therefore the wood is now harder etc. so I can’t do an A/B comparison. The new Zebra wood cue based on what I am seeing will most likely play like my original.
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Johnnybgood
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My original. Or I should say my sons. Is well seasoned. Lol. But it plays like nothing else. The only cue I found that plays nearly as well and maybe better (don’t know too close) was a Gina Cue I have the opportunity of playing with. The owner was not ready to sell or I would have bought that cue on the spot. I love the way cues look but I love the way they play better. Playability is a cues primary function.
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Hi....
Nice lineup of cues ....
Is it the tips that NEED TO BREAK IN????
or the cue?????
Johnnybgood
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Thanks!
I believe it’s a little of both. The TAD tips are generally pretty hard but they do compress a little. But the wood on the cue also compresses. Mainly the shafts best I can tell
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I believe it’s a little of both. The TAD tips are generally pretty hard but they do compress a little. But the wood on the cue also compresses. Mainly the shafts best I can tell
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I have heard this for years, and I do think there is some validity to it. The only way you can really tell is by keeping a cue for a long period of time or by playing with an older cue that you are familiar with how a new one plays...of the same brand or cue maker. Its not just cuemakers who mention it but I have heard it from some players as well.
I sold a couple shafts 6-7 years ago for a friend and they started out at roughly 12.75 mm when the cue was new directly from the cuemaker. When I sold them they were both around 12.25 - 12.4 and had never been touched other than new tips, never even cleaned. They were super smooth and straight and played better than a new set of shafts I had from the same cuemaker.
Johnnybgood
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You are correct and I have both a new and vintage of the same style cues and therefore I can actually watch the process take place.
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I would highly doubt there is a difference. The way the shop is layed out, e.g. a dedicated lathe for every model, and their supply of wood(think lifetime) produces consistent and high quality cues.