Ernie Martinez Update

Hello all,

I just left Ernie's shop and, unfortunately, it appears he has gone "walk-about" again . I'm only mentioning this at this early stage of not really knowing, to discourage anyone from sending deposits for new cues until things clarify. His permanent status is still unknown at this time. I will post an update if I learn of things changing, but for now I suggest to hold off.

For those who have been trying to get a hold of him and not having success, this is why.

Dave

P.S. I'm not affiliated with Ernie Martinez Cues, just reporting its status.

I think anyone who has had the pleasure to meet or talk with Ernie all feel the same way about him, as a person and as a VERY talented cue maker. He is the nicest guy to talk with. He is so engaging, great smile, humble and incredibly knowledgeable about cues and machinery. I, for one, will miss our conversations (even though they were not often). I hope he'll return for good.

JoeyA, Sean and the others, thanks for your wishes. If I talk to Ernie I will pass them on.

Let's keep our fingers crossed,

Dave

Charlie Edwards said:

What happened to Ernie? I don't really care, but I'm curious. He and his mother may be great people but from an outsider looking in, they look like crooks to me. His mother said my check was the only one lately that was deposited. All the other buyers checks weren't deposited and would be returned. She said she owned the equipment and that the business was hers, and she was responsible for my money. She sounded honest, but now I am beginning to wonder. All she told me was that Ernie stopped showing up. If anyone knows what happened to him, they should post it here. When he treated me and his other customers the way he did, he needs to be exposed.

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Hi Charlie,

Sorry to hear about your problems with Ernie.

I understand how you feel, but I assure you, Ernie is not a crook-just periodically succumbs to outside forces beyond his control. Ernie's Mom is determined to make things right and had assured me that everyone will get their money back, but to do this equipment must be sold first. Last time I talked with her she said she might have a buyer within 2 weeks. Until then, there's no money to reimburse anyone, including me. Please be patient.

Again, Ernie's Mom didn't have to contact anyone since it was not her problem. But she did. She may have loaned Ernie the money to get started again (not even sure about that) but she is not involved with the business other than that. I believe she has very good intentions to make things right. If you don't hear from her in about 10 days, I would try to contact her again. If you are not satisfied with the progress she's making at that time, do what you have to do. But I would be patient a little longer-it's your call. Please know that you are not alone and I do believe her when she says she will make it right.

Either way it's a sad story. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk further or if you want to make sure Ernie's Mom gets a message from you, but please wait a short while and let her try to get the money together to send you.

Dave

Charlie Edwards said:

Dave, the story she gave me was different, she said my money wasn't used and was sitting in her bank, and she promised to mail a cashiers check to me the next day, without fail. I do appreciate you giving her a message. I talked to the Adam county and Denver county DA's office today and they agreed to except felony theft charges. If it goes to trial, they will even pay my expences to Colorado. If I don't get my money back within 10 days from today, she and Ernie can be assured I WILL file the charges. That's a promise. In addition, I may file a federal complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. And it may not stop there. I am dead serious about this thing.

BTW, today I talked to someone there that knows Ernie very well, and they explained to me just how Ernie's life was not short of being a train wreck.
I just don't know how that should be my problem.

Thanks again,

Charlie Edwards

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Charlie, just so you know I left a voice message on Bernice's cell phone about this email you posted. I didn't have a phone number to leave her so I referred to the messages you have left previously. If you want me to pass on your number to make sure she has a chance to reply, you can PM me & I will be happy to pass that on as well.

You're right, Ernie's problems should not be your problems. And I feel really bad for you since it was a very thoughtful gift for your daughter-in-law. I wish I married into your family . I still feel Bernice is trying to make things right.

DAve

Charlie Edwards said:

Today I received a full refund for a cue I ordered and completely paid for, and that would never have been delivered. A money order was sent by Ernie Martinez's mother, Bernice. She has my thanks. I am glad this matter has been rightfully concluded.

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Yay! I'm happy for you. I Still want to marry into your family, though .

Charlie Edwards said:

LOL. If you ever do, I'll give you my Schick, or Hercek. Or had you rather have a Josswest? hehe

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Dealer's choice.....Dad. They all sound good to me .

cuejoey said:

What a sad situation for all his customers.what happened to the guy drugs,breakdown ?

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We are all concerned as to what happened, but the fact is noboby knows for sure. I, for one, do not want to speculate or start false rumors about what may or may not have happened to Ernie so let's please leave it at that. He is such a great talent that I (we) all hope he returns to cue making one day.

The only reason I started this post was to suggest to those that were planning on ordering cues from Ernie, or were planning on sending a deposit, to hold off. I hope that's OK? Just trying to protect my fellow AZ's.

Dave