The same problem in golf as in pool

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AzB Silver Member
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Well it appears we have the same issues in golf as in pool , we have a team with zero camaraderie and The Euro team is all buds hang out together sing kumbaya and beat us like a step child in golf as they do in pool ,


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RiverCity

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Well it appears we have the same issues in golf as in pool , we have a team with zero camaraderie and The Euro team is all buds hang out together sing kumbaya and beat us like a step child in golf as they do in pool ,


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Wow, thats really profound! Thank you for taking the time to post such a thought provoking post. :thumbup:
 

garczar

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Well it appears we have the same issues in golf as in pool , we have a team with zero camaraderie and The Euro team is all buds hang out together sing kumbaya and beat us like a step child in golf as they do in pool ,


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That's part but not all of it. Furyk should have taken a couple "fairway finders" to a course he knew full well would punish errant drives. Oh yeah, making a putt when needed would not have hurt either. Already got tickets to Whistling Straits for '20.
 

sjm

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I don't think it's on Furyk. Ryder Cup after Ryder Cup, the US has done poorly at alternate shot and this year was no different, with the team going 2-6 in the eight matches. Added to it's 4-4 record in best ball, this explained in full why they were down an almost insurmountable 10-6 entering Sunday.

That said, the poster who noted the importance of good driving on a course with difficult, long rough is right on the mark, and good driving is even more important in alternate shot format. European Captain Bjorn understood this, and named too of the world's straightest hitters, Sergio Garcia and Henrik Stenson, as two of his captain's picks. Contrastingly, the Mickelson pick made no sense at all, as Phil was not in the top hundred on the PGA tour in driving accuracy. Xander Schauffle would have been a far better choice, but when the veteran American players contribute almost nothing, it's very hard for the young guys to pick up all the slack.

In the end, though, the European team played well and earned the victory. Where it reminds one of the Mosconi is that the Europeans always seem to play with more joy than the Americans at the Ryder Cup.
 

WildWing

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I don't think it's on Furyk. Ryder Cup after Ryder Cup, the US has done poorly at alternate shot and this year was no different, with the team going 2-6 in the eight matches. Added to it's 4-4 record in best ball, this explained in full why they were down an almost insurmountable 10-6 entering Sunday.

That said, the poster who noted the importance of good driving on a course with difficult, long rough is right on the mark, and good driving is even more important in alternate shot format. European Captain Bjorn understood this, and named too of the world's straightest hitters, Sergio Garcia and Henrik Stenson, as two of his captain's picks. Contrastingly, the Mickelson pick made no sense at all, as Phil was not in the top hundred on the PGA tour in driving accuracy. Xander Schauffle would have been a far better choice, but when the veteran American players contribute almost nothing, it's very hard for the young guys to pick up all the slack.

In the end, though, the European team played well and earned the victory. Where it reminds one of the Mosconi is that the Europeans always seem to play with more joy than the Americans at the Ryder Cup.

Agree with you, but don't think Xander Schauffle would be available to the American team.

Beyond that, agree, and the US seems to be captivated by picking nostalgic picks, such as Mickelson and Woods. I think it would have been better to pick guys like Billy Horschel, hungry like wolfs.

The longest victory streak in Ryder Cup is still with the Americans. But, the Euros have bitten into it, we have to admit. More fun stuff ahead.

All the best,
WW
 

Dead Money

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Another few things you will hear if you follow golf..

*The course is playing fast or slow depending on how wet/humid it is. "Greens sure are playing slow today after all the rain last night!"

How many times have you heard that discussion at the pool hall?:grin:

*You will also here this "sage" advice.. "everyone has to deal with it!"
 
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Black-Balled

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And pro cycling has just made it a rule that minimum base salaries for top pros shall be approx 33k/ yr.

A sport that has probably A BILLION in annual sponsor money...and we claim that if the pool pros would just unite...

Takes a lot of resources to elude real work.
 

sjm

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Agree with you, but don't think Xander Schauffle would be available to the American team.

Beyond that, agree, and the US seems to be captivated by picking nostalgic picks, such as Mickelson and Woods. I think it would have been better to pick guys like Billy Horschel, hungry like wolfs.

The longest victory streak in Ryder Cup is still with the Americans. But, the Euros have bitten into it, we have to admit. More fun stuff ahead.

All the best,
WW

OK, then let's go with Kyle Stanley, who was sixth on the PGA in driving accuracy, and who was 16th in the Fed Ex Cup points race entering the Fed Ex playoffs.
 

WildWing

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OK, then let's go with Kyle Stanley, who was sixth on the PGA in driving accuracy, and who was 16th in the Fed Ex Cup points race entering the Fed Ex playoffs.

Green for you. Agree, Stanley, in addition to Horschel, would have been good captain's choices. To keep it pool related, the OP hit it right on the mark, with respect to the energy of the Europeans vs Americans, correct in both sports. Even though some lesser above tried to snipe, it is accurate.

Lessons learned, on selecting captain's pick. Good post.

All the best,
WW
 
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