That last sentence is pure gold.
Different lengths bridge for follow, draw and stop
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That last sentence is pure gold.
I agree. I didn't get it either. Even I knew better than to argue with Freddy about pool. He cut me some slack, but not enough to argue this point
If it worked for him great, but I only have one way to hold a cue and hold it with the same pressure for every shot. But, moving the bridge as he described does have it's merit. Maybe not for some "pro" level guys that can shoot the same bridge length with no negative affect, but for amateurs, it certainly will improve your game, you draw and your pocketing ability.
I agree. I didn't get it either. Even I knew better than to argue with Freddy about pool. He cut me some slack, but not enough to argue this point
If it worked for him great, but I only have one way to hold a cue and hold it with the same pressure for every shot. But, moving the bridge as he described does have it's merit. Maybe not for some "pro" level guys that can shoot the same bridge length with no negative affect, but for amateurs, it certainly will improve your game, you draw and your pocketing ability.
I wasn't fully conscious of Freddy's ego when it came to all things pool and made the mistake of arguing with him on several points, earning his eternal emnity.
Lou Figueroa
Well, growing up around him, I knew better
But, he would be the first guy to give you the shirt off his back. And any pool player that was busted or sick, would always have a place to stay at his home. So, he had a rather large ego, but at least his heart matched it
Good post. You're going against conventional wisdom here but IMO you happen to be correct.
To take it a step further, I'd submit that the bridge length is not all that important but that stroke length should be the focus. Just because your bridge is 12" long doesn't mean your stroke should be.
2 players who are known for their accuracy (Alex P. and Mike Dechaine) achieve that accuracy in large part by using a very short stroke even though their bridge length wouldn't be considered short.
Both players (particularly Dechaine) can generate excellent power and do it with very little increase in their stroke length.
If you don't believe it just take a look at a few videos and you'll see that I'm correct.
Not arguing that stroke length may well be a factor. But - just think about Geometry class back in High School. Then look at the possible pivot point meaning that any slight deviation from a straight follow through will have a much larger effect on a pivot point farther away from the tip. The pivot point being the bridge.
Well, as I said before, if you are playing Dechaine's or Alex' speed, no problem. They don't have the kind of problems humans like us have
Not arguing that stroke length may well be a factor. But - just think about Geometry class back in High School. Then look at the possible pivot point meaning that any slight deviation from a straight follow through will have a much larger effect on a pivot point farther away from the tip. The pivot point being the bridge.
Well, as I said before, if you are playing Dechaine's or Alex' speed, no problem. They don't have the kind of problems humans like us have
Both play with Ld shafts that have a longer effective pivot point as well let’s not forget that part of the equation.
But the idea of that less lengthy backstroke applies most as well all should understand what is transferred is acceleration at the moment of impact....not before or after
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Well, growing up around him, I knew better
But, he would be the first guy to give you the shirt off his back. And any pool player that was busted or sick, would always have a place to stay at his home. So, he had a rather large ego, but at least his heart matched it
No doubt.
Lou Figueroa
Hmm...Haven't touched my cue in 6 months. I may have to dig it out of my closet to test this one. Interesting.
Interesting point.
A low deflection shaft might allow a longer bridge (for smoother acceleration, etc.) without the longer bridge's stroke error magnification.
pj
chgo
Now, I believe we are talking about two different kinds of "pivot".
The kind you want when you're using BHE, for example.
And the other kind - which is the unwanted pivot resulting from a wobbly or in any other way crooked stroke. Now if your back hand gripping the cue at the time of impact shifted slightly to the right, the part of the shaft in front of the bridge would hit the cue ball on the left of it's intended impact point. If you used a short bridge the deviation intended impact point to actual impact point would be minor. The longer the bridge the more this deviation would show. Try it out for yourselves and look how far you can pivot with your grip hand on a short bridge vs. a long one - for example to hit 2 tips off center cue ball. You will notice that your butt end has to rotate a lot more for the same kind of deviation with a short bridge. Maybe that explains it better.
And this second kind of pivot, the unwanted or accidental one, will practically have the same effect on an LD vs. a normal cue. Your aim won't be ok unless you are "accidentally" using the correct bridge length for BHE. Still, even in that case you will have unintended spin on the cue ball either making you miss the ball or at least missing position on all but really close and easy shots.
At least that is my take on the applied science.
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Carom players have been utilizing various length bridges and grips on the cue for over a hundred years! ALL the top 3C and Carom players know the value of adjusting those according the each individual shot!
That was my point about having a longer bridge with a low-squirt cue. The bridge and pivot lengths match up.
pj
chgo
How about three examples of particular grips and the different effects they produce.
Lou Figueroa
I say it would be the exact reverse