••• Straight-in Shots •••
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This is a very interesting topic.
I was reading posts from one of the expert pool players in the 'aiming' threads and he advocates that it doesn't matter too much about how clear the vision is or where the eyes are positioned.
He says that it's all about the stroke and if the stroke is straight and perfect... the alignment to the shot is almost an automatic. And shots can be made routinely even with the eyes closed. (I'm skeptical about that)
How do his principles coincide with the vision ideas presented here?
(as for me, I improved with my shooting when I got glasses)
I was reading posts from one of the expert pool players in the 'aiming' threads and he advocates that it doesn't matter too much about how clear the vision is or where the eyes are positioned.
He says that it's all about the stroke and if the stroke is straight and perfect... the alignment to the shot is almost an automatic. And shots can be made routinely even with the eyes closed. (I'm skeptical about that)
How do his principles coincide with the vision ideas presented here?
(as for me, I improved with my shooting when I got glasses)
go back and look at the video in the link in joey's first post
that will answer your question
Lakeman,
If it only helped one person, I am very glad.
Thanks for the update on reverse order. (It could matter, one way or the other.
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JoeyA
Since I've actually met Joey A and respect him so much, I broke down and did this a few minutes ago. I've always wanted to try to nail down my VC and this prompting has got me a bit excited.
THIS was done dead cold. Hadn't hit a ball. Shot in the following order.
Left eye =
LH edge: 1-5 (dumb luck to even make 1)
Center eye: 0-5
RH edge: 3-5
Center of eyes: 5-5 (none very clean)
Right eye =
LH edge: 4-5
Center eye: 5-5 (fairly clean and my natural position)
RH edge: 5-5 (very clean, but felt "off")
THIS was done dead cold. Hadn't hit a ball. Shot in the following order.
Left eye =
LH edge: 1-5 (dumb luck to even make 1)
Center eye: 0-5
RH edge: 3-5
Center of eyes: 5-5 (none very clean)
Right eye =
LH edge: 4-5
Center eye: 5-5 (fairly clean and my natural position)
RH edge: 5-5 (very clean, but felt "off")
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This exercise also helped me determine that I can pretty much line up like I normally have for LH cuts.
However, for RH cuts, I need to move my head slightly to the left of my comfort zone to put the cue more under the far right edge of my right eye. It prevents me from chronic overcuts on those shots.
I'm going to make an effort to consciously make this work until it becomes an unconscious thing.
Thanks, JoeyA!
However, for RH cuts, I need to move my head slightly to the left of my comfort zone to put the cue more under the far right edge of my right eye. It prevents me from chronic overcuts on those shots.
I'm going to make an effort to consciously make this work until it becomes an unconscious thing.
Thanks, JoeyA!
I also had my best friend observe as a spotter, so that he could make sure that the cue was going in the same spot under each individual area.
This was a very eye-opening experiment, to say the least. No pun intended.
This was a very eye-opening experiment, to say the least. No pun intended.
I had a cue it wouldn't have been straight in with !!! LOL
I ordered a Brock String, Q ball, and a eye patch plus some other visual training aids. I actually had a pretty long conversation with my optometrist about convergence exercises and establishing how much more dominant my left eye is than my right. ( I am very left eye dominant, however my left eye actually has worse sight than my right eye). That was interesting because actually talking with a doctor about dominant eyes and exercises was very informative. She was pretty enthusiastic that the exercises absolutely would improve my binocular vision and gave me a basic exercise schedule to not tire my eyes out ( you can strain the muscles in your eyes if you over do it) Anyway I should be starting convergence exercises next week so that will be interesting and hopefully I'll see some improvement.
For my actual aim.
I think I may be aiming off center bit. When I do the rail shot (straight in rail to do tip to tip) I usually am putting left english( ball comes off rail to my left me facing it). So I experimented with the movement to the right then I end up putting right english. Anyway I was reading Capoelli's book on pool and he suggested using a one ball which ended up getting me some better results.I'm just slightly off on the short rail. I've done the drill 280 times ( 280 strokes since I started counting sometimes I forget to use my counter app so it's probably higher than that and sometimes I forget to do it) so I figured once I hit 1000 after the summer I'll be good. Dave's book is also really great as well and that's helped as well.My problem with the tip to tip is I have some back issues and muscular issues and staying down like that for repetitive motion actually hurts.
For my actual aim.
I think I may be aiming off center bit. When I do the rail shot (straight in rail to do tip to tip) I usually am putting left english( ball comes off rail to my left me facing it). So I experimented with the movement to the right then I end up putting right english. Anyway I was reading Capoelli's book on pool and he suggested using a one ball which ended up getting me some better results.I'm just slightly off on the short rail. I've done the drill 280 times ( 280 strokes since I started counting sometimes I forget to use my counter app so it's probably higher than that and sometimes I forget to do it) so I figured once I hit 1000 after the summer I'll be good. Dave's book is also really great as well and that's helped as well.My problem with the tip to tip is I have some back issues and muscular issues and staying down like that for repetitive motion actually hurts.
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I find that using a much wider stance helps to relieve the strain on my back/neck if I want to get very low over the cue. I wish pool tables were about 3 inches taller.
If pool tables were 3 inches taller I would be at least a ball better. I don't even like talking about the 4 points of contact except with the players I really like. If you can get down this low you're stealing.
Same here. I'll try that wider stance however, I am a short guy so to wide a stance and I get a little off balance. Yea, it's only that tip to tip exercise where you have to stay down for it. I did figure out it was my popping up that was causing some swerve so I usually do a 1 one thousand count before coming up.
Gene Albrecht. He probably has worked with more players on the dominant eye than any other instructor.
JoeyA
JoeyA
Bowling is much harder and the equipment is too heavy to carry.
