🔵Facebook sale ---80 McDermott cues from friend’s late-father & McDermott dealer — How will this end? 🔵

Paul_#_

Paul_#_

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A Facebook seller is selling about 80 McDermott cues and some others from his friend’s late father who was a McDermott dealer. These appear to be mostly new cues from between 2006 to 2014. Most prices appear to be the sale price originally tagged on the cues. How good of a deal is it eleven to nineteen years later?

Its cash only, no shipping, and must be picked up from seller’s home in Midland, Michigan . . . .

Here are a couple of cues and the website links:



A few of the cues and links:
McDermott DR04 “Dr Cue” Tom Rossman $650
___ https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1171136047729344
McDermott OCC1 Orange County Choppers $110
____ https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1696132541309474
McDermott OCC2 Orange County Choppers $110
McDermott OCC3 Orange County Choppers $110
McDermott ST8C Star cue of the month September 2008, $160
McDermott Star ST8D cue of the month $160
McDermott M22A Mano, $185
Mcdermott ST11 Tremor $201
McDermott M71D Raider, 209
McDermott G-Core shafts, $200
McDermott M62A Wrangler Cue of the Month, $229
McDermott M72F-BK0, 4249
McDermott M83C USA, $249
McDermott ZOR3 Zorro cue of the month June $250
McDermott M03E Kenya Tribute Zebra Giraffe, $250
McDermott M64C Sabre cue of the month $265
McDermott GS06 Maple cue of the month May $269
McDermott M8H4, $280
McDermott M72F-PK3 Heartbreaker II Birdseye $290
McDermott CV50 Corvette, $299
McDermott Assassin Special Edition with, $399
McDermott G204C-G03 Brown Lizard Embossed, $305
McDermott HD38-G03 Harley Davidson Cue of, $325
Mcdermott HD40-G03 Harley Davidson, $340
McDermott i1 big boy shaft, $250
McDermott sledgehammer break, $350
McDermott EDIT G311C-G03 Birdseye maple cue of the month April 2007 EDIT $525
_____ https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1359111582099940
McDermott M82B Bengal Tiger Cue of the $366
McDermott G311C-G03 Birdseye maple cue of $525
McDermott RS1, $400
McDermott G211C-G03 Blue Birdseye Maple, $410
McDermott G208C Zebrawood cue of the $399
___ Original price tag is $415, photo below and link at; EDIT, Original price is $265 for this 2011 cue
McDermott M82E Silver Cobra cue of the month $439
McDermott G223C-G03 Custom Curly Maple $445
McDermott D606 Retro D6 limited edition $449
McDermott M71B infinity cue of the $449
McDermott G206A-G03
McDermott G205 Pink Birdseye Maple cue of $450
McDermott G214C Black onyx & Pearl cue of the $460
McDermott G226C Custom point cue of the $465
McDermott DEMO4 Dealers demo cue $400
McDermott M82A Black and Tan cue of the month January, 2008, $484 (original price tag is $329)
McDermott G211A-G03 spalted maple cue of $495
McDermott G223A-G03 $295
McDermott M85E emerald spear special $629
McDermott M72E-003 Daytona cue of the $558
McDermott G311C1-G03 Bubinga cue of the month September 2011, $575 (original price on tag is $375)
McDermott M66G ivory valiant edition $599
McDermott M64D Phoenix cue of the $641
McDermott M72H Bolivian cue of the month, September 2007, $641
_____Original price tag is $419. see photo below and link at
McDermott M904 $644
McDermott G704C East indian rosewood, cue of the month February 2012, $660 (original price tag is $480)
____the original price tag is $480 , photo below, post at https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1193161102469659
McDermott M74A White Pearl Gecko cue of the $686
McDermott M71A Deacon cue of the $686
McDermott M72B Double Diamond cue $686
McDermott G1304 Cue of the Year 2013, Limited Edition, $1399
McDermott G1305-I03 __ 2014 Cue of the Year Limited Edition $1,399
_____Same price as original price tag (that seems high still) See photo below and post at https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3940037859565900
McDermott C-17 used, a 1980s cue, $1150
McDermott M88A El Diablo limited edition, $1469 (original price tag is $1395)
McDermott M88B cue for the cure limited $1579
McDermott C-21 TK-6 $1850
McDermott G1908 Pool cue limited editio $1999
Meucci Originals MS-1 $300
Meucci M3 $400
Meucci Hall of Fame 2 $500

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Paul_#_ said:
This is not the best method for selling 80 McDermott cues. I will be in Michigan in October --- will they be available then? My guess is that prices will drop a lot after several months and, depending on the seller's patience, a liquidator will buy all that remains.
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My guess is not a lot of people will travel to Michigan to pay cash only for MSRP from a secondary market that has no McDermott lifetime warranty.

YMMV
 
people always try to hit the rainbow. but after a time reality sets in.
and if they wait until things go cold and they get desperate, then they get punished.
and rightly so.

ask too much early on and your best market goes away and doesn't come back.
 
Chopdoc said:
Its a logarithmic scale.

buttload * 10 = 1 butt ton

butt ton * 10 = 1 assload

assload * 10 = 1 asston

asston * 10 = 1 shitload

shitload * 10 = 1 shitton

shitton * 10 = 1 fuckload

fuckload * 10 = 1 fuckton

So 1 fuckton = 10^3 shitloads = 10^ 7 buttloads
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my bad. this new math...
 
How good are the prices?

Some prices are MSRPs from eleven to nineteen years ago, are new cues, and some of those prices are now nice. Some other prices are a little higher than that on the price tag from years ago. The seller has been careful at pricing. Even with the lower prices, it still can be difficult to sell a lot of cues that require pickup in Midland MI.

McDermott’s Cues of the Year sell on their website now in 2023 and 2024 models between $3000 and $5000 versus the Facebook seller’s new cues from 2013 and 2014 between $1400 and $2000 (2013 G1304 at $1399, 2013 G1305 at $1399, and 2014 G1908 at $1999).

Limited Edition cues sell now between $1300 and $15,000 versus Facebook seller’s between $450 and $2000. The $2000 cue is also a Cue of the Year (G1908) is impressive and presumably would be in the top tier of Limited Edition cues today. Hmmm, the $2000 G1908 may be OK.

Star cues sell today between $215 and $375 versus Facebook seller’s $160 to $200.
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Here is an updated list

McDermott Shooters Collection 2x4 hard leather shoulder case in $125
McDermott Shooters Collection 2x2 hard leather shoulder case in $115
McDermott Shooters Collection 2x2 hard leather shoulder case
McDermott Shooters Collection 4x6 hard leather shoulder case in $150
McDermott Shoulder 1x2 leather hard shoulder case in $90
McDermott Shooters Collection 1x2 hard shoulder case in $90
Cue By Huebler - Made in USA pool cue in $200
McDermott DR04 "Dr. Cue" Tom Rossman Hand Signed from 2010 RARE FIND in $650
McDermott Black Widow BWS1 pool cue in $72
McDermott Element ELEM01 pool cue in $90
McDermott Star ST8B Ivory Cue of the month April 2008 in $100
Black Widow 11 piece pool cue kit in $110
McDermott OCC2 Orange County Chopper Pool Cue in $110
McDermott OCC1 Orange County Choppers Pool Cue in $110
McDermott OCC3 Orange County Choppers Pool Cue in $110
McDermott Lucky L17 Pink Pool Cue in $100
McDermott KIT4 Pool Cue in $100
McDermott ST8C Star cue of the month September 2008 $160, new (price tag $160)
McDermott KIT3 Pool Cue in $120
McDermott Star ST8D cue of the month September 2008 in $160
McDermott 8 piece pool cue hit CP-ST70 in $180
McDermott M22A Mano shark pool cue, $185, new, 19 oz, 13mm
McDermott Star ST11 Tremor Pool Cue $201; new, 19 oz, linen wrap, price tag $160
McDermott M71D Raider Pool Cue in $209
McDermott G-Core shafts, #069 used $160 black joint collar; #070 new natural joint collar $200. 3/8x10; Sell now for $240
McDermott M62A Wrangler Cue of the Month June 2006 in $229, new, no price on tag, 13mm, 20 oz., leather wrap
McDermott M72F-BK0 in $249, heartbreaker with heart and barbed wire, linen wrap, new, price tag is $249
McDermott M83C USA pool cue in $249
McDermott ZOR3 Zorro cue of the month June 2010 in $250
McDermott M03E Kenya Tribute Zebra Giraffe Cue of the Month September 2010 in $250
McDermott M64C Sabre Cue of the Month September 2006 in $265
McDermott GS06 Maple cue of the month May 2012 in $269
McDermott M8H4 pool cue $280 used, cartoon of Sneaky Pete juggling pool balls
McDermott M72F-PK3 Heartbreaker II Birdseye Maple in $290
McDermott CV50 Corvette Pool Cue $299 new
McDermott Assassin Special Edition with PREDATOR 314-2 SHAFT Cue of the Month June 2008 in $399
McDermott G204C-G03 Brown Lizard Embossed Leather Wrap Cue of the Month July 2012 in $305

McDermott HD38-G03 Harley Davidson Cue of the Month June 2012 in $325 (MSRP $325) some included a 1x1 Wildfire cue case. Seller has these cases for sale by themselves but they have tears or damage — maybe better without it. See Wildfire case https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/960220319650528

McDermott i-1 Big Boy shaft, used $250 ($120 less than a new one today) and one new for $300 ($70 less than one new today)
McDermott Sledgehammer break cue in $350
McDermott G301C-G03 Birdseye Maple Cue of the Month May 2011 in $365 (MSRP $365 for May COM G301C-0511 & special price $315)
McDermott M82B Bengal Tiger Cue of the Month March 2008 in $366
McDermott G311C-G03 Birdseye Maple Cue of the Month April 2007, $525 (price tag $375)
McDermott TRFR NASCAR pool cue in $375
McDermott TRFR Rusty Wallace Pool Cue in $375
McDermott Stinger NG06 Break/Jump Cue in $420
McDermott G311 variation pool cue in $385
McDermott RS1 pool cue in $400

McDermott G211C-G03 Blue Birdseye Maple cue of the month April 2012, $410 new, (MSRP $410 but price tag is $285) https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2105788903166580

McDermott G208C Zebrawood cue of the month Feb 2011, $399 used (MSRP $415, price tag & special pricing $265); photo below, cracked bumper,

McDermott M82E Silver Cobra cue of the month october 2008 in $439 (price tag $299)
McDermott G223C-G03 Custom Curly Maple cue of the month November 2011 in $445
McDermott D606 Retro D6 Limited edition $449 new, Launched & retired in 2006 MSRP $449
McDermott M71B Infinity Cue of the Month December 2007 in $449
McDermott G206A-G03 cue of the month september 2012 in $450
McDermott G205 Pink Birdseye Maple cue of th emonth January 2012 in $450
McDermott G214C Black Onyx & Pearl cue of the month December 2011 in $460
McDermott G226C Custom Point cue of the month Oct. 2011 w. G-core $465(price tag $265)
McDermott DEMO4 Dealers Demo cue with G-Core shaft in $400
McDermott M82A Black and Tan Cue of the month January 2008 $484 (price tag $329)
McDermott G211A-G03 in $515
McDermott G224C-G03 Spalted Maple cue of the month June 2011 in $495
McDermott G224C-G03 Spalted Maple cue of the month June 2011
McDermott G223A-G03 Pool Cue in $295 dropped from $500
McDermott M85E Emerald Spear special edition in $629
McDermott M72E-003 Daytona cue of the month March 2007 in $549
McDermott M11C Warden Cue of the Month April 2006 in $558
McDermott G311C1-G03 Bubinga cue of the month September 2011 in $575 (price tag $375)
McDermott M66G Ivory Valiant limited edition cue $599, new Launched & retired in 2007, MSRP $599
McDermott M64D Phoenix Cue of the Month October 2006 in $641
McDermott M72H Bolivian Cue of the month September 2007 in $641, linen wrap, price tag $419 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2996734560493661
McDermott M904 Pool Cue in $655
McDermott G704C East Indian Rosewood cue of the month Feb. 2012 in $660 (price tag $480)
McDermott M74A White Pearl Gecko Cue of the Month October 2007 in $686
McDermott M71A Deacon Cue of the Month July 2007 in $686
McDermott M72B Double Diamond Cue of the Month Feb 2007 in $686
McDermott C-17 Pool Cue in $1,150

McDermott Demo cue with three i-shafts (i-1, i-2, Big Boy), used, $1,235
McDermott G1305-I03 2014 Cue of the Year Limited Ed., i-2 & i-3 shafts, $1,399 (MSRP $1399, no price on tag), new, photo below https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3940037859565900

McDermott M88A El Diablo Pool Cue Limited Edition, i-2 shaft, $1,469 new (price tag $1395) no wrap, discontinued
Lauched 2008, retired 2014, original price $1469. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1315122172971452
Here's what McDermott wrote about its limited edition cues:
McDermott’s Limited cues offer the outstanding performance, precision inlays and exceptional craftsmanship expected from a McDermott. They possess the beauty and elegance that far exceeds the standard of high end custom cues. These cues are highly sought after by collectors and cue aficionados. Limited cues come with a McDermott Certificate of Authenticity (from the Facebook seller, too?).
Features:
* Birdseye Maple forearm/sleeve
* Black urethane handle
* Brass rings
* i-2 shaft
* McD QR joint
* 6 Brass/white urethane points
* 6 Sets of /white urethane /Brass sleeve inlays
* Box Elder Burl/Brass/white urethane "Web" no wrap handle

McDermott M88B Cue for the Cure Limited Edition $1,579, new Launched 2008, retired 2014, original price $1579

McDermott C-21 TK-6, $1,850; launched 1980, retired 1984, used, original price $500, Blue book $1850; Chis McDermott cue; Comes with two matching shafts. Used in great shape.

McDermott G1908 Pool Cue Limited Edition Cue of the Year 2014 Enhanced, $1,999, sold-out, MSRP $1999, i-2 & i-3 shafts, new, birdsey maple forearm/sleeve; silver, green & index rings; 6 sets of abalone, black urethane & pewter points; 12 sets of abalone, bone urethane & black urethane handle inlays; 6 sets of abalone, black urethane, & bone urethane sleeve inlays; 6 abalone & 12 bone urethane clover inlays; Black urethane no-wrap handle with pewter & bone urethane inlaid rings; McDermott quick-release joint. See its description at https://www.mcdermottcue.com/g1908.php

McDermott Leaping Lizard Jump Cue in $75
McDermott Jump Cue Stinger in $90
Meucci Originals MS-1 Pool Cue in $300
Meucci M3 Pool Cue in $400
Meucci M3 Pool Cue
Meucci Hall of Fame 2 Pool Cue $500
Cue G1908 cue of the year 2014_3.jpg
 
Worth original wholesale less 30%. Why buy no warranty old cues that might have problems when dealers can buy new cues from McDermott with a warranty at wholesale ? and a dealer is the guy to buy these.
 
@Paul_#_ How will this end? Well, I still have 5 cues in stock, but I've unloaded 150 cues & loose shafts, a few dozen cases, and 200+ balls over the past 9 months. I've collected $38,000+ in that time, $22k of that being direct/in-person sales, the rest via eBay (fees and shipping took about $5k). I expect the few I have left to pull in at least another $2000.

I noticed this thread over the summer but didn't get around to registering here until now to post some feedback. I spent weeks painfully researching pricing for these before posting them, so I am hoping this update can help the community valuate their similar lumber.

The year started off with about ten dealers making $10,000 offers on the whole lot. Most scoffed when I respectfully declined. I knew nothing about pool cues and while I grew up with a Valley table at home, I never played much and still don't. I almost felt bad when folks stopped by to look at my inventory, knowing I didn't appreciate it nearly as much as they did.

I got in contact with McDermott pretty early on and started sending cues that showed signs of wear back for them to clean up. Let me add here, that their customer service is top notch. I'm no authorized dealer, but they treated me like one from day one. They were happy to formally agree to honor all originally implied warranties to all of my buyers (for new items), contrary to what's been mentioned in this thread. They replaced a ton of dry rotted bumpers, dried out tips, and completely rebuilt a handful of shafts before returning them to me.

Pricing waivered throughout the year. Lakeman77 is pretty close about landing 30% shy of sticker on average (for new). The owner insisted the handful of used cues we had should land around original sticker, and in some cases that was true, but most cases they fell short. Our new inventory held stronger, but definitely had some cues that people were just not interested in no matter their original sticker price.

It took a lot more work, but not offering shipping for the first 4-5 months of selling probably saved us $8-10k in fees. Plus, even with great photos and crystal clear descriptions, we ran into trouble on eBay with some buyers not being satisfied. I had zero issues with in person (+ a handful of PayPal friends and family via FB marketplace) buyers. I would take the same approach I took if i had to do this all over again - gosh those eBay fees are rough.

Anyway, onto the data, I'll spare you details on cases/balls/accessories, but here is how the cues fared. If anyone is interested in photos, let me know and I can shoot you a link to my website that has them all cataloged. If anyone is interested in the few that don't have sale prices listed, look on eBay - 3 of them are there, the other two are currently pending.

EDIT: I seem to be running into issues pasting my spreadsheet here, and it doesnt like me attaching excel documents. For now I'll attach a PDF until i can figure out a more reliable/helpful way to post the text here.
 

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