1 in 14 chance to own 2 sweet Darrin Hill cues

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"The King" and I have put something really nice together here. You can have a 1 in 14 chance to own both cues shown below:

Cue #1

  • Made in 2006
  • 8pts hi/lo Indian Rosewood into Birdseye
  • 4 Cocobolo points with one red veneer in the long Rosewood points
  • Highly figured Cocobolo Burl butt sleeve
  • Rings at A,B,D and E
  • Aegis joint and cap
  • Darrin's 3/8 x 10 brass pin
  • 2 12.75 mm shafts, 3.5 oz each
  • Signed by Darrin Hill

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Cue #2

  • Made in 2005
  • Length: 58"
  • Butt Weight: 15.3 oz
  • Shaft 1: 3.9oz, 12.75mm
  • Shaft 2: 3.7oz, 12.75mm
  • Titan Ferrules
  • Wood to wood joint with Darrin's 3/8x10 brass pin
  • 6 gabon ebony points into a gabon ebony forearm with recut african walnut veneer
  • Thin white single ring at A and B
  • White slotted rings at C, D, and E
  • African walnut handle
  • Gabon ebony butt sleeve
  • Black phenolic butt cap
  • Signed "Darrin Hill 05, Hills Cues"


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How the raffle will be run

We will be using the Georgia Mega Millions Lotto. Drawings are held on Tuesday and Friday nights. We will determine what drawing to base our raffle on once all slots are filled and will provide at least 24 hrs notice in this thread. We will be using the first number that is published for the drawing. This number will be the first WHITE ball and will NOT be the power ball. White balls represent numbers 1 through 56. This means, all participants of this raffle will have 4 numbers working for them at the time of the drawing.

We will offer 14 slots at $175 a piece. Each slot owns 4 numbers as shown below. Interested parties should respond to this thread and claim your slot(s). We'll work on a "first come, first serve" basis.

SLOT A: 01,15,29,43
SLOT B: 02,16,30,44
SLOT C: 03,17,31,45
SLOT D: 04,18,32,46
SLOT E: 05,19,33,47
SLOT F: 06,20,34,48
SLOT G: 07,21,35,49
SLOT H: 08,22,36,50
SLOT I: 09,23,37,51
SLOT J: 10,24,38,52
SLOT K: 11,25,39,53
SLOT L: 12,26,40,54
SLOT M: 13,27,41,55
SLOT N: 14,28,42,56

Money handling & Shipping

The King will provide his paypal information to interested parties in order to allow them to purchase 1 or more slots. After the winner has been realized, that person will PM their address to both "The King" and myself so each of us can send our cues via priority mail/insured. I will send the 2005 Hill with "Signature required" unless the winner informs me to do otherwise. The King has also indicated that this option can be put to use if requested.

and that's about it. Good luck :)
 
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what if i hit 2 of the numbers and someone else hits 2 numbers? do you have to get all 4 numbers to win?
 
I guess it can seem complicated when you don't read the information that's been posted very clearly. We're only using the first number drawn. Very simple.
 
These raffles seem to be a great way to sell cues above their actual marketprice. Good luck.
 
Only the first power ball can win ...

We use only the first ball... they are numbered 1 through 56 ...If 32 falls who ever is lucky enough to hold number 32 wins both cues.
 
windowsrefund said:
AZers,

A 1 in 14 chance to own 2 HIlls for under $90 a piece?!?!? People should be jumping on this. Bump!
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$175 is a lot of money for most people to gamble, especially in the current economy.

I think you'll find that more people would be willing to put up half as much (or less) for a chance to win one of the cues.

BTW, those are beautiful cues.
 
Nice looking cues, but.....I have to call'em like i see them. I was hoping get in a couple of raffles, so i don't want to see the idea ruined.

Asking an expert seller, if you sold each indivdual cue. You would be lucky to get around $1000 for each one, right? 175 x 14 = 2500, seems like seller is making to much profit. Sure it's is great if you win 2 cues for 175, but think of the other 13 people.
 
The Raffles Only Work When The Tickets Are Resonably Priced, And When The Ticket Buyers Don't Feel Like They Are Being Gouged.

2450 For These 2 Cues? I Owned Cue 1, And Know It Didn't Sell For Half Of 2450, And It's The Fancier Of The 2 Cues.
 
Honestly, I dont think it matters what someone is making on the whole deal of selling tickets.. I think it matters how much the tickets are, As in what your spending to buy one..

You wouldn't pay $175 for both of these cues? That's the point.. I do think $175 is a bit much to gamble on though for a raffel.. and he would do better on seperate ones for half that cost..


Saying "I wouldn't buy a ticket because the cue is worth XXX and your making double" is like saying well you only paid $50 so I will not give you more than that.. Even though that something may be worth more..

Just my opinion..

If the guy put up a Szamboti only worth $10k and the tickets were cheap enough I wouldn't care if he was getting $20k when all said and done..

It's about what "your" paying for a ticket.. Not what everyone combined is paying..

Again, My opinion..
 
Nine Ball said:
Honestly, I dont think it matters what someone is making on the whole deal of selling tickets.. I think it matters how much the tickets are, As in what your spending to buy one..

You wouldn't pay $175 for both of these cues? That's the point.. I do think $175 is a bit much to gamble on though for a raffel.. and he would do better on seperate ones for half that cost..


Saying "I wouldn't buy a ticket because the cue is worth XXX and your making double" is like saying well you only paid $50 so I will not give you more than that.. Even though that something may be worth more..

Just my opinion..

If the guy put up a Szamboti only worth $10k and the tickets were cheap enough I wouldn't care if he was getting $20k when all said and done..

It's about what "your" paying for a ticket.. Not what everyone combined is paying..

Again, My opinion..
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IMO, it does make a difference to me. The seller is gettig 2500 for two cues, and 14 people are taking all the risk.
 
Bugz said:
IMO, it does make a difference to me. The seller is gettig 2500 for two cues, and 14 people are taking all the risk.
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But if you won these cues how much did it cost you???

and that should be the point..

Enjoy.......
 
Nine Ball said:
But if you won these cues how much did it cost you???

and that should be the point..

Enjoy.......
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Thats only one person

What if you lost.....13 people.
 
Why are we debating the pros and cons of raffles??? You know what a raffle is, I know what a raffle is, and all the while, we're still offering a 1 in 14 chance at owning these 2 Hills for less than $90 each.

Let's get these slots filled and then we can all yell at the winner :)
 
Hmmmm, NO ONE has bought a spot yet? :cool: A few thoughts:

1) Total dollar amount must equal what one could sell the cues for in todays market. Your total is 20-25% over that.

2) This raffle is not being run the same as the successful ones; though you can explain the differences, the perception is that this one is gimmicky. (Which it is)

3) 2 cues? Why? As previously stated, though you are placing the value much higher, the market is saying take 1K (max) for each cue and be happy. So the ticket amount really should be $140 max. 14 tickets at $70.00/ea for either cue and you might pull this off.

4) Hill ain't Eric Crisp! AZ has created an unprecedented demand for Sugartree cues, but Darrin Hill? Not exactly highly sought after. Not disparaging the man nor his work, just stating the facts --- not much name recognition = very low demand = lower value in todays market = never gonna sell tickets for $175.

5) 2 cues, 2 sellers, 2 shipments = double the headaches!! And twice as many things to go wrong. Keep it simple!

JMO! ICBW!

-von
 
windowsrefund said:
So Von, how many slots are you interested in?
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Just pointing out my opinion as to why NOBODY has bought
a single spot in 4 days!!

But you can certainly ignore my insight and keep telling all AZers what a smokin' deal this is! :D

Seriously, I wish you luck....

-von
 
Cue Value

Hi guys,

King you and I have talked on a few deals in the past and you seem like a pretty nice person. I did one of the original raffles and it went very successfully. So, I think I have some room to talk on this subject.

When setting the raffle price, I think you should have to use a normal asking price for the cue in question as if you were going to sell it. We all know that the cue market is down and most buyers are lowballing prices. I think asking value of a cue is reasonable. There is enough data here with others selling this makers cue to figure out what that dollar figure is. If you try to get more than that, your setting yourself up for doubt in the minds of the ticket buyers about your trustworthyness. When I did my drawing, I went out of my way to make sure everyone percieved me as very trustworthy. They have to trust the system to buy the ticket and that starts with the value of the raffle object. You should heed Von's advice and re-evaluate the price of your tickets and probably split them up.

However, none of us know how much you paid for these cues. You would not be the first member here to get into a cue at too high of a value and then be stuck when you wanted to get rid of it. If that is the case, then I am sorry. Sometimes you have to take your lumps and move on to the next cue. Believe me, I speak from experience there as well.

Lastly, if you can get the price thing sorted out and raffle them off separately, then I will buy a ticket to support the cause.:D
 
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