1 pocket - YOUR SHOT.
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JoeyA said:
Eureka! That's the coaching I needed, Joey - thanks. With left spin I wasn't getting low enough. With just extreme low centerball, the draw works much better, sometimes missing the long rail entirely, like this:
pj <- arf
chgo
Patrick Johnson said:
Hi Pat, how's things over there in 'Evanstoned' ?
Of course you're correct...how thin you have to cut the bank, humidity, age of the cloth, will all determine the feasibility of the shot.
Patrick Johnson said:
I'll give you a call, and we'll get together.
1 Pocket Ghost said:
I must have misplaced your number. Call me today if you want to come by my house later (gotta Diamond here now). I'll PM you the number in case you don't have it.
pj
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Patrick Johnson said:
Here's another shot (which is a little misleading as far as what type of English and where you need to aim at the object ball) that Peer recorded on video from the infamous Chris Capp who I have heard will be matching up with Kimbo Slice soon.
http://CueTable.com/P/?@2KALU3PXNY2fALU1fcxq3kXNY2kBRI2kbHN4kani3qWdP&ZZ3raUOThis_spot_shot_was_demonstrated_by_a_friend_of_Peer_named_Chris_Capp_who_has_a_nice_stroke_especially_on_draw.__The_funny_thing_was_that_I_tried_the_shot_and_kept_missing_until_I_started_aiming_more_directly_at_the_object_ball_and_with_more_draw_and_less_side_spin.__It_also_helped_if_I_jacked_up_a_little_bit_and_just_aimed_more_directly_at_the_11_ball.__Trying_to_cut_the_ball_like_a_normal_shot_and_I_miss_it_over_and_over.__Thanks_for_the_video_inspiration,_Peer!._&ZZ4uCdE@
JoeyA
Thanks Patrick. Later. I'm out of here. Going to see if Jaden is still handing out can's of azz-whup.
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JoeyA said:
Re-formatted Joey's post to show the shot...
pj
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If you can get the cueball to do that,your my hero!!JoeyA said:With a little practice, this shot can be added to your arsenal. It is not as hard as it looks. The only difficulty is having the confidence that you can sharply draw the cue ball into the head rail and float the cue ball down behind the two other balls thereby protecting the 11 ball if you fail to make it.
I watched Cliff Joyner practicing this for a half hour and stole it from him.
JoeyA
i actually tried it like this today..i never made the shot but i got the ball down there and whitey in behind those two balls....the other way,shooting to two railer and sending whitey back and forth..i scratched a few times in the oppenents pocket...Onepocket73 said:
deadwhak said:
Read my post #11.....
Don't like any of the (diagrammed) responses so far (not going to read the text ones). You both need two, who says you have to get aggressive?
simple, tappy tappy and leave him in roughly the same spot you were in, ldo.
simple, tappy tappy and leave him in roughly the same spot you were in, ldo.
JoeyA said:
I think 95% of the responses will be the same. As long as conditions allow for the shot, it's the right shot.
AZE said:
I agree with the thought process as long as I'm playing a guy who can't play dead.
IMO, one pocket played at a high level does not involve waiting for your opponent to leave you straight in, but rather maneuvering the balls to force him to try to get out of the trap.
The shot choice you explained leans more the direction of the waiting game and not the trapping game.
Onepocket73 said:
With Joey's coaching (hit it low with no sidespin) even I could get the cueball to do that, without even hitting the long rail. And that was on slippery cloth - I bet on sticky cloth you could hit the other OBs without hitting the long rail.
Try it; you'll be surprised (if you can hit the CB pretty low and pretty hard).
The main challenge is hitting the CB hard enough to get it all the way downtable. All the CB's forward momentum is killed with draw, so you have to convert the thin carom off the 11 to sideways momentum (kicking off the head rail).
pj
chgo
It's a two-way street.
The funny thing about all of these "phenomenal" shots is that once you know how they are done, anyone can do them. Cliff didn't tell me what he was doing and it took time to discover the shot's secret.
I love to watch magic tricks and I don't have to know how they're done to enjoy them but with magic tricks I want to be entertained only. With pool, I like being entertained but I also like to perform and the only way to perform is to learn and discover. That's why I read posts from you- Patrick, Bob Jewett, Mike Page, $.02 Ron) )and many other fine posters.
I believe that every shot that you have ever seen can be duplicated by ordinary amateurs like you and I. Unfortunately, there are secrets to performing some of these shots and the secret is sometimes guarded or simply not explained.
Some people simply have the unique ability to do what some of us have to struggle with. That is why I have been thinking about doing a pool video. It is because unlike some players, I have had to struggle to learn and improve. I think that is the case with most players. Some of the phenoms simply "do" and don't have a clue as to the difficulties that some of us mortals face. It may be easier to learn from someone who has struggled to excel rather than from someone who innately excels.
And by the way, Patrick, that low English you used to make that shot is called Buddy Hall Draw. In one of my lessons with Buddy, he showed me what the rest of the world deemed 6:00 Draw, then he showed me what Buddy Hall 6:00 Draw looked like and what it did. Cliff probably learned that draw from Buddy.
JoeyA
Patrick Johnson said:
The funny thing about all of these "phenomenal" shots is that once you know how they are done, anyone can do them. Cliff didn't tell me what he was doing and it took time to discover the shot's secret.
I love to watch magic tricks and I don't have to know how they're done to enjoy them but with magic tricks I want to be entertained only. With pool, I like being entertained but I also like to perform and the only way to perform is to learn and discover. That's why I read posts from you- Patrick, Bob Jewett, Mike Page, $.02 Ron
) )and many other fine posters.I believe that every shot that you have ever seen can be duplicated by ordinary amateurs like you and I. Unfortunately, there are secrets to performing some of these shots and the secret is sometimes guarded or simply not explained.
Some people simply have the unique ability to do what some of us have to struggle with. That is why I have been thinking about doing a pool video. It is because unlike some players, I have had to struggle to learn and improve. I think that is the case with most players. Some of the phenoms simply "do" and don't have a clue as to the difficulties that some of us mortals face. It may be easier to learn from someone who has struggled to excel rather than from someone who innately excels.
And by the way, Patrick, that low English you used to make that shot is called Buddy Hall Draw.
In one of my lessons with Buddy, he showed me what the rest of the world deemed 6:00 Draw, then he showed me what Buddy Hall 6:00 Draw looked like and what it did. Cliff probably learned that draw from Buddy. JoeyA
That's definitely a shot I considered.BTW--Please explain your avatar??Pool Loft Dave said:
