12 oz cue measurement questions

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ShootingArts

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Years ago I had a one piece twelve ounce snooker cue. Once mastered it was a shooting machine, I owned whitey.

I foolishly let it warp and tossed it thinking I would just buy another whenever I wanted since the tip I put on it cost more than the stick at the time. Now the stick is long gone and no longer offered. I want to duplicate it as closely as practical using the garolite pin and phenolic joint rings to keep a two piece cue as light as possible. Does anyone own one of the old twelve ounce cues, made by Brunswick I believe. I would appreciate some measurements. Tip size, maximum diameter at the butt and perhaps diameter about every foot to give me the taper. Seems like total length was 60" but I could be mistaken.

Also I remember this cue being moderately stiff despite the small shaft. Anyone know if this was an ash or maple shaft?

Thanks for any information.

Hu
 
a blast from the past...

predator said:
How could weight be only 12 ounces? I find that very hard to believe.
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About 40 yr. ago I used a 13oz. snooker house cue for the golf games.
Could put a very soft hit on the cue ball. Lots of fun. Only one I ever saw that light, nothing else even close.
 
very belated answer

Brunswick made a twelve ounce sixty inch snooker cue for years. For starters it was a one piece cue so no joint or collars to add weight. The other thing is that the entire stick was slender starting with the tip, seems like it was nine or eleven millimeter but memory fails me at the moment. It was a straight taper or fairly straight taper so it was moderately stiff to play with.

The thing to remember is that pi times the radius squared gives the area of the cross section of a cylinder. Taking off of the outside of a shaft and cue stick reduces weight a whole lot faster than trying to drill it off. Two friends and I all shot with our own twelve ounce cues in the mid-eighties. The cue was ten dollars, another twelve to put the milk dud tip on it. It was the ultimate finesse stick since it didn't have much weight to do any work it meant that the shooter had much more speed control than with the more typical eighteen to twenty-one ounce sticks of the day. It was a real pain to learn to use but once I got it working I could do ridiculous things with the cue ball.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
Years ago I had a one piece twelve ounce snooker cue. Once mastered it was a shooting machine, I owned whitey.

I foolishly let it warp and tossed it thinking I would just buy another whenever I wanted since the tip I put on it cost more than the stick at the time. Now the stick is long gone and no longer offered. I want to duplicate it as closely as practical using the garolite pin and phenolic joint rings to keep a two piece cue as light as possible. Does anyone own one of the old twelve ounce cues, made by Brunswick I believe. I would appreciate some measurements. Tip size, maximum diameter at the butt and perhaps diameter about every foot to give me the taper. Seems like total length was 60" but I could be mistaken.

Also I remember this cue being moderately stiff despite the small shaft. Anyone know if this was an ash or maple shaft?

Thanks for any information.

Hu
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Hu, it has been normal practice for years to use Ash shafts on Snooker cues. I have a number of Antique Brunswick one piece cues, I will check them and see if I have anything that light.

I Know that I have some 14 oz cues for sure, don't know what type of wood they are though.

Take Care
 
Thanks

manwon said:
Hu, it has been normal practice for years to use Ash shafts on Snooker cues. I have a number of Antique Brunswick one piece cues, I will check them and see if I have anything that light.

I Know that I have some 14 oz cues for sure, don't know what type of wood they are though.

Take Care
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Craig,

I don't think Brunswick consistently got them that light. I think they made the sticks and then weighed them and I have heard that some marked 12OZ were really over 13.

No rush as this is a project for myself and back burnered as usual but whenever you get around to it I do appreciate you taking a look and letting me know.

Hu
 
An unusual cue

GordonRamsay said:
60inch?

Seems like a little long for a snooker cue... Mine is around 52...and 16oz
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Obviously this was an unusual cue in a lot of ways. This definitely wasn't a shorter than "normal" house cue and I do believe that it was 60 inches. That was my memory and I found one for sale listed as 12 ounces and 60 inches several years ago when I started this project but it was already sold when I found out about it. Sold for sixty dollars which wasn't bad return on a ten dollar stick!

Hu
 
...crap...

I DO have some contacts in the antique billiards realm.... and they do collect old cues regardless of type............can you give me a time frame when you first had it?
 
early eighties

GordonRamsay said:
...crap...

I DO have some contacts in the antique billiards realm.... and they do collect old cues regardless of type............can you give me a time frame when you first had it?
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I bought it brand new in the early eighties through a local cue shop. Guessing a little, 82 or 83 I believe.

Thanks for any help with this.

Hu
 
thanks anyway

GordonRamsay said:
...the word is no.

They were like... OH... yeah that's too new for me.....whatever that means
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I do appreciate the effort regardless. Those things weren't really what I would call collectible but people collect the dangest things these days so I could have been wrong. They are just like a few million other house cues except turned a little thinner stem to stern.

Thanks Again,
Hu
 
GordonRamsay said:
60inch?

Seems like a little long for a snooker cue... Mine is around 52...and 16oz
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60 inches is normal for a Snooker cue, I mean the game is played on 12x6 table. You say yours is around 52" now I am a retailer for billiards equipment and I have never seen one anywhere near that short. Now, the normal length for a 3-Cushion cue is between 55 & 57 is that what you meant to say?

Please post a photo of your cue.

Thanks Craig
 
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I would still keep checking around.........in the billiard collector industry everyone knows someone who knows someone who might know where you can find whatever.........


no joke... my phone was ringing off the hook when the "collector network" found out I was looking for a set of baseball pocket billiards.
 
@manwon

Mine is a Riley R-something, middle of the road snooker cue.... brand new at 54 inches(CONFIRMED)....and depending on the length of the ferrule...+-an inch( I had mine switched)

I do however own the extender system that screws onto the cue....and for longer shots I just use the combination of the extender and long tackle..
 
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Of course you can have a cue made to whatever length you want but between 57" and 58" is the norm for an adult snooker cue.

Gordons 54" is a kids cue no doubt and in all honesty a piece of chinese tat good for tomatoe plants and the like in a greenhouse.
 
Wity said:
Of course you can have a cue made to whatever length you want but between 57" and 58" is the norm for an adult snooker cue.

Gordons 54" is a kids cue no doubt and in all honesty a piece of chinese tat good for tomatoe plants and the like in a greenhouse.
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seriously....was that called for??
 
Sorry mate but the truth is the truth. Riley cues nowadays are made in china, they are very cheap, made of 3d rate wood, suspect to warping, have ebonised butts, (painted black) and covered with lacqer fom top to bottom thus sliding though ones brdge like a derailed train. Their latest prettty range has plastic marble looking coloued splices and virtually all of them have an autograph of a pro player on them whose cut from the endorsement makes for 50% of the value of each cue mass produced in china and sold for export for less than $10 a time.

The group who owns most of the snooker halls in the uk also trades under the once respected Riley name and they give away Riley cues to each new member and you can find them for sale in most high street "sports" shops and the likes of woolworths under the gifts for children section especially at xmas but you'd never see one in a proper cue shop.
 
Just coincidence Gordon but I've just been reading the thread where you said..

I like to have the best of the best when I am playing...even though I kinda suck at snooker... I sure as heck cant blame the equip...
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If you want the best then look no further than a Trevor White snooker cue as playing with a modern Riley is akin to playing tennis in flip flops.
 
yeah... but can you get them in the US???


that's the thing........the only choice most of us have is either Riley or Dufferin....something is at least better than anything....


I really had to search for that set of balls and getting them through customs was a nightmare...

There are only around 3 snooker tables in our city of 5.6 million....and none of them have actual snooker baize...except for DrSnooker's personal table
 
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