14.1 american

wasn't a good look. aside from the stupid shot on the two ball he also started packing his cues at ~117 points.
 
Year after year he does not change. He can hide his true nature from many but it always leak time from time. I root always vs him.
No matter what he does. So many examples out there how he lack sportmanship. I just lost my respect to him long time ago.. No matter how many records he do.
 
He'd rather go back to the buckets. This was no fun for him .
The pockets just don't feed correctly.😤

Remember, he's the greatest ball pocketer of all time. Just ask him.


This is where it took a turn....


He needs a new tattoo. " Just Give Up "
 
Year after year he does not change. He can hide his true nature from many but it always leak time from time. I root always vs him.
No matter what he does. So many examples out there how he lack sportmanship. I just lost my respect to him long time ago.. No matter how many records he do.
mr 714 my @ss
 
The commentary was pretty funny, arguing that if He missed that shot on the 2 ball then he would lose the match because Shaw would run 111 and out. Whoops!
 
Somehow related, I think. I no longer watch the high run record attempts on FB that are being held on the large pocket ( 5inch +-) tables . It has already been well established that modern day top pros can run 500+ balls on those bucket tables- and some of us already knew that several retired or deceased 14.1 top pros could also have run 500 + balls on bucket tables - many of them did that but it just was not documented.
So I find any high run attempt on bucket tables to be totally boring and utterly pointless.

It is time to establish and perhaps have the top modern pros compete for a modern day 14.1 high run on the closest to "pro standard" pockets of this now modern era. Set the bar at 4 1/2 inch pockets and let them all have at it. Running balls on 5 inch pockets for top pros is now meaningless IMO. The 14.1 high run attempts should not be about marketing gimmicks to sell autographed cue balls, used billiard cloth, etc. etc.- it has taken on a circus atmosphere IMO.

Give the true pool aficionados the opportunity to view the very best modern 14.1 ball runners attempting to establish who is the true present day king of the hill on table conditions that represent modern day pro competition. This American 14.1 Championship does a great job of showing us who are truly the best competitive 14.1 players today. My hat is off to Peter Burrows.
 
Somehow related, I think. I no longer watch the high run record attempts on FB that are being held on the large pocket ( 5inch +-) tables . It has already been well established that modern day top pros can run 500+ balls on those bucket tables- and some of us already knew that several retired or deceased 14.1 top pros could also have run 500 + balls on bucket tables - many of them did that but it just was not documented.
So I find any high run attempt on bucket tables to be totally boring and utterly pointless.

It is time to establish and perhaps have the top modern pros compete for a modern day 14.1 high run on the closest to "pro standard" pocket of this now modern era. Set the bar at 4 1/2 inch pockets and let them all have at it. Running balls on 5 inch pockets for top pros is now meaningless IMO. The 14.1 high run attempts should not be about marketing gimmicks to sell autographed cue balls, used billiard cloth, etc. etc.- it has taken on a circus atmosphere IMO.

Give the true pool aficionados the opportunity to view the very best modern 14.1 ball runners attempting to establish who is the true present day king of the hill on table conditions that represent modern day pro competition. This American 14.1 Championship does a great job of showing us who are truly the best competitive 14.1 players today. My hat is off to Peter Burrows.
Yes, you have to let the superstars gather and duke it out to find out who is the best. Practice runs on bucket tables are like batting practice. —- fun to watch but not the true measure of greatness.
 
It has already been well established that modern day top pros can run 500+ balls on those bucket tables- and some of us already knew that several retired or deceased 14.1 top pros could also have run 500 + balls on bucket tables - many of them did that but it just was not documented.
So I find any high run attempt on bucket tables to be totally boring and utterly pointless.
1 out of 4 did

could you name a few of those modern top pros and what they may or may have not run though?
out side of john schmidt and the 4 recent pros

other pros have now changed their minds that 700 is too much even with incentives , ask bobby
 
1 out of 4 did

could you name a few of those modern top pros and what they may or may have not run though?
out side of john schmidt and the 4 recent pros

other pros have now changed their minds that 700 is too much even with incentives , ask bobby
Who can or did or could run 500+ on bucket tables? I think several today and several from years ago. No reason to name names, it should be obvious - I am sure that some of the top 14.1 pros did turn down the offer to try to run 700 or whatever the number now stands. I doubt that the guaranteed cash offer for a high run on buckets is worth trips from Europe, etc. - are we talking $50K to $100K or more guaranteed? How many days is a fair measure of achieving that run- 3 days, 10 days, who knows- it is just not worth it for guys to come here and try it. I'm talking cash- not cue ball sales, etc. or having to tour the U.S. and hope folks show up for commentary exhibitions on one's high run.

Agree with SJM- only competitive records can measure true greatness. This American 14.1 will crown the best of the best and THAT is legit.
 
Who can or did or could run 500+ on bucket tables? I think several today and several from years ago. No reason to name names, it should be obvious - I am sure that some of the top 14.1 pros did turn down the offer to try to run 700 or whatever the number now stands. I doubt that the guaranteed cash offer for a high run on buckets is worth trips from Europe, etc. - are we talking $50K to $100K or more guaranteed? How many days is a fair measure of achieving that run- 3 days, 10 days, who knows- it is just not worth it for guys to come here and try it. I'm talking cash- not cue ball sales, etc. or having to tour the U.S. and hope folks show up for commentary exhibitions on one's high run.

Agree with SJM- only competitive records can measure true greatness. This American 14.1 will crown the best of the best and THAT is legit.
Yeah, no names is correct
 
The commentary was pretty funny, arguing that if He missed that shot on the 2 ball then he would lose the match because Shaw would run 111 and out. Whoops!
yes, I heard one of them keep saying that if the ball was missed that a 111 run out was a lock - that the opponent ( Shaw) would win the game. it is really dumb how some commentators make assumptions regarding 14.1 run outs- a million things can stop a run out for anyone.

Besides, Shaw disgraced the entire event by just giving up on the table as he did- 14.1 has always been regarded as the game with the most class in all of pool - now we see someone do this- sad. Last year it was Strickland physically attacking people at this event- what's next??
 
Who can or did or could run 500+ on bucket tables? I think several today and several from years ago. No reason to name names, it should be obvious - I am sure that some of the top 14.1 pros did turn down the offer to try to run 700 or whatever the number now stands. I doubt that the guaranteed cash offer for a high run on buckets is worth trips from Europe, etc. - are we talking $50K to $100K or more guaranteed? How many days is a fair measure of achieving that run- 3 days, 10 days, who knows- it is just not worth it for guys to come here and try it. I'm talking cash- not cue ball sales, etc. or having to tour the U.S. and hope folks show up for commentary exhibitions on one's high run.

Agree with SJM- only competitive records can measure true greatness. This American 14.1 will crown the best of the best and THAT is legit.

What a small-minded, provincial view of the sports world — I doubt anyone who enjoys the World Series, the NBA finals, or golf’s four majors has a problem with the Home Run Derby, the Slam Dunk Contest, or the World Long Drive Contest.

Nor would they try and to put it on the promoters of those events that they were, somehow, attempting to substitute these narrowly defined competitive events for the bedrock events where champions of these sports emerge and are crowned.

Certainly, no one at our event is claiming that a high run event will prove who was “the best of the best.” Mosconi proved he was the best of the best with his world titles and the testimony of those who saw him play. And so it shall be for the rest of pool.

That’s what's legit.

Lou Figueroa
 
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