anyone have info on 14.1 events at dcc for 2013 ?
14.1 at dcc 2013 ????
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Derby Straight Pool 2013
The qualifiying days will be Sunday January 27 through Wednesday January 30. The room will be open from 9:00 a.m. until midnight and on the last night, if there is a demand we will stay open until 2:00 a.m.
I was talking to Greg Sullivan about it yesterday and we are going to see if we can fit two ten foot tables in the room and use ten footers for the competition this year!
Stay tuned for more details. :grin-square:
The qualifiying days will be Sunday January 27 through Wednesday January 30. The room will be open from 9:00 a.m. until midnight and on the last night, if there is a demand we will stay open until 2:00 a.m.
I was talking to Greg Sullivan about it yesterday and we are going to see if we can fit two ten foot tables in the room and use ten footers for the competition this year!
Stay tuned for more details. :grin-square:
Granted I don't get out much but I haven't even seen a 10' table for 30 years. They're not very common. I've been out of the pool scene for quite awhile but I doubt they're springing up all over the place.
I'm assuming the objective is to try & have as many people as possible participate in the event. If so, I would think using 10' tables wouldn't help achieve that. A few pros might welcome it but I think the general consensus would go in the opposite direction.
I've been thinking of taking some vacation time & going to one of these events. If so, I'd definitely want to participate in the 14.1 challenge but I think the 10' tables would cause me to reconsider & maybe wait for another event to go to.
Maybe others will chime in here. I'm somewhat of a contrarian in a lot of instances so maybe my opinion will be in the minority.
I'm assuming the objective is to try & have as many people as possible participate in the event. If so, I would think using 10' tables wouldn't help achieve that. A few pros might welcome it but I think the general consensus would go in the opposite direction.
I've been thinking of taking some vacation time & going to one of these events. If so, I'd definitely want to participate in the 14.1 challenge but I think the 10' tables would cause me to reconsider & maybe wait for another event to go to.
Maybe others will chime in here. I'm somewhat of a contrarian in a lot of instances so maybe my opinion will be in the minority.
I've seen a couple of 10 ft. Snooker tables but haven't seen a 10 foot pool table since I left NYS. The IBM country club near where I lived had two converted billiard tables and the room I played in had a Snooker table, also converted from a billiard table. I really liked playing on them myself.
Personally, I think switching to a ten footer is ridiculous. Why is this even being considered?
Because, at this point in time, games on a 10 foot table are a novelty proposition. No one has access to them to play and practice on and until they become far more available (which will be not in our life times) any 10 foot event might as well be held on a carnival midway.
Lou Figueroa
5x10 is a dealbreaker for me
i appreciate all the effort and expense involved in this event. 5x10 is a dealbreaker for me. i would be going in hopes of seeing some of he top players run hundreds. i think on a 10' that is a real longshot. i will keep an eye on the posts to see what size tables will be used. if 9' i will plan to go & watch. i do not play well enough to enter.
thanks,
j
i appreciate all the effort and expense involved in this event. 5x10 is a dealbreaker for me. i would be going in hopes of seeing some of he top players run hundreds. i think on a 10' that is a real longshot. i will keep an eye on the posts to see what size tables will be used. if 9' i will plan to go & watch. i do not play well enough to enter.
thanks,
j
To clarify, I think it was ridiculous at Tunica, as well.
Each and every time that the pros deviate from playing pool the way amateurs do, they take a step toward disenfranchising the casual fans of the game. For years, the pros, at will, have arbitrarily varied the rules and varied the equipment, as if it makes no difference. Alternate break, winner breaks, no jump cues, jump cues allowed, phenolic tips, no phenolic tips, opponent can be forced to shoot again after a miss, cue ball fouls only, all ball fouls, nine footers, ten footers. Pool has become like a box of chocolates --- you never know what you're gonna get.
..... on the brighter side, straight pool has managed to remain a game played on nine foot tables and with practically no rules changes for over fifty years. Yes, when I watch players play straight pool, I know they are playing the exact same game that was played fifty years ago at the first of the Johnston City events by the likes of Irving Crane, Luther Lassiter, Joe Balsis, Eddie Kelly and others.
Most of the fun in watching the DCC 14.1 challenge is in comparing the pros of today to those of the old masters, most, but not all of whom, played in the last fifty years. The 14.1 challenges are, to me, a matter of nostalgia, and that nostalgia would be greatly compromised by the use of inappropriately sized tables.
On a side note, as the TV table at Derby City will not be a ten foot table, the final of the DCC 14.1 challenge could not take place in the TV arena.
I wonder if I'd attend the DCC 14.1 Challenge at all if it were contested on ten foot tables.
I think Diamond is making 10' tables now and is trying to get them in the spots to garner attention. I think the room is well sized for 9' tables and the history has been with such tables. I provide support for the technical side of the challenge primarily setting up my equipment to shoot the video and some minor scoring/ref work.
I hope the 9' I am glad to know that the event will continue as 14.1 is played more frequently thanks to this great event started and supported by Bob Jewett and supported by others including our own sjm and many volunteers including DMG, Marop and others. Thanks to Greg and all the people at Diamond who put together the entire DCC event.
elvi votes for the 9' table an I am hoping for double lights this year on both tables.
I hope the 9' I am glad to know that the event will continue as 14.1 is played more frequently thanks to this great event started and supported by Bob Jewett and supported by others including our own sjm and many volunteers including DMG, Marop and others. Thanks to Greg and all the people at Diamond who put together the entire DCC event.
elvi votes for the 9' table an I am hoping for double lights this year on both tables.
We are having 9 foot tables in the Straight Pool Room.
Greg is still thinking about doing the finals on a 10 foot table.
We shall see.
He has donated the room and the tables every year. This year he is also throwing in $5,000.00. He will have some say in what the event is. I won't mind if the finals are on a 10 footer. Whoever makes it that far should be able to play on one and I would like to see it.
Greg is still thinking about doing the finals on a 10 foot table.
We shall see.
He has donated the room and the tables every year. This year he is also throwing in $5,000.00. He will have some say in what the event is. I won't mind if the finals are on a 10 footer. Whoever makes it that far should be able to play on one and I would like to see it.
If Accu-Stats does video again, I think it would be good to schedule the finals to be on Thursday. Scheduling them for Friday means they will actually take place on Saturday very late at night.
10 vs 9 vs 8 vs7
Personally I would like to see 10ft tables make a comeback. For me the game of 14.1 is the purest form of all the table games. I have had the opportunity to play on ten foot arcades and it adds a dimension to the game that is disappearing. The last time I walked into a table sales room they were amazed that I even had a passing interest in a 9 foot table! "Everyone recogizes the 8 foot table as the regulation table now" they said. Well, perhaps I am a bit of a stick in the mud but, I'd lilke to see the game reverse directon and return to the traditional ten footers. Diamond is in fact producing 10footers and I would have purchased one instead of my Pro-AM if 1. I had the funds and 2. I had the room. I understand the need for pool halls to make money and how expensive space can be. I'm sure you could have two 7footers or more in the space occupied by a single 10 footer but, the tradition, challenge, skill and pure enjoyment of playing on one of these monsters brings back what pool was and still could be today. So, here's one vote for the ten foot challenge.
Personally I would like to see 10ft tables make a comeback. For me the game of 14.1 is the purest form of all the table games. I have had the opportunity to play on ten foot arcades and it adds a dimension to the game that is disappearing. The last time I walked into a table sales room they were amazed that I even had a passing interest in a 9 foot table! "Everyone recogizes the 8 foot table as the regulation table now" they said. Well, perhaps I am a bit of a stick in the mud but, I'd lilke to see the game reverse directon and return to the traditional ten footers. Diamond is in fact producing 10footers and I would have purchased one instead of my Pro-AM if 1. I had the funds and 2. I had the room. I understand the need for pool halls to make money and how expensive space can be. I'm sure you could have two 7footers or more in the space occupied by a single 10 footer but, the tradition, challenge, skill and pure enjoyment of playing on one of these monsters brings back what pool was and still could be today. So, here's one vote for the ten foot challenge.
I have played on ten footers many times but have no idea what dimension of the game you feel is gradually disappearing and how the reintroduction of the ten footer would bring it back.
Please clarify.
Good thinking, Bob. Thursday is when the earliest rounds of the nine ball event are in progress and is, consequently, a day in which players have a lot fo down time.
My respect for Greg Sullivan is limitless, and I'll support this event financially no matter what. The finals are not about players trying to produce high runs, but about besting an opponent. I don't feel the integrity of the event would suffer significantly if the head to head matches took place on ten footers.
Then again, some of the players might not like changing equipment in the middle of an event, but that's a different matter. I recall how they changed, if memory serves, to a red circle cue ball in the middle of the ten ball event at the 2012 Super Billiards Expo, and some of the players went crazy.