14.1 Break question

terhje

terhje

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Hi. Im playing allot of straight pool these days, practising for the norwegian nationals next weekend.
Im also recording every match, so im hoping to get a desent run on tape.(have a match to 600 planed for today).

but i have a question on this breakshot: your hitting the lower side of the object ball in the rack from different cue angles. should i hit it with follow on all angles? to make the cueball curve to the endrail..or should i, on the low angle hit it with draw to make it draw to the long rail? or am i totaly off?:P

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thx Terje
 
Draw

If your arrow is accurate and you'll be going into the front half of the 11 ball, I'd put enough draw on it for the CB to clear away from the rack. You should then, at the very least, have the 15 in the side or the 5 in the same corner. Just my opinion though.

Ron F

Check that...you have a backward cut on the OB...high right and as hard as you can without losing accuracy on the OB.

Ron F
 
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hmm

I've seen that video, also mike sigels perfect pool. which says the same thing. but is it really that easy? shoudnt you take in consideration where you hit the ball, more so than what angle you have?

They are saying that the hit on the object ball only desides how much draw/follow your gonna use?

what about here? the object ball is allot closer to the rack..?

thx for the replays.

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I'm no champion but I've studied the break shot quite a bit.

If I'm hitting the lower side of the 2 in your diagram, then I'm putting draw on the cue. This will cause the cue ball to go straight to the side rail. It will not go flying uptable in this case. I find that follow on this shot is a risk of a scratch.

I do the same thing if I'm hitting the lower side of the top ball (the 14 in your diagram).

If I'm hitting the 11 ball on either the low side or high side, then I put follow on the cue. There is so little weight behind the 11 ball that follow will always go through and reach the end rail.

If I'm hitting high on the 2 then I put some follow on it to keep from screaming uptable. I see a lot of players but draw on this and just go uptable and bounce back up to the middle of the table.

If I'm hitting high on the 14 then I definitely put follow on to hit the side rail and keep from spinning uptable too far.

I do all of the above no matter what cut I have on the object. I'm convinced that where you hit the object ball is the most important factor. The cut on the object ball determines how fast the cue goes into that point in the rack.

With cuts over 60 degrees I almost always use follow. Tend to make the shot more often with follow than draw in those cases. Just hope for the best with the cue ball on those shots.

Enough rambling...
Andy
 
I would draw the first two and follow the last because you are going into the balls in a more direct path when the OB is closer to the rack than the CB and you will be able to eat into the rack easier with less chance of glancing off into the pocket.
 
In a lesson I had with Tony Robles, he told me that if the cue ball's going to be heading into the lower portion of the ball in the rack, hit hard with below center (not FULL draw) and a little outside English.

This should avoid the scratch and bring you to the side rail and out a little with options into lower and middle pockets most times.

I agree there might be subtle differences with different balls in the rack; and I think you have to work out what works with YOUR stroke and YOUR speed of break-shots.

But I think this is a pretty good rule of thumb to start off from.

I just began hitting every shot that way, and learned from there, based on my own results (which might be peculiar to my own swing etc.)

Good luck.
 
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