14.1 Challenge Question for Bob

lfigueroa said:
Bob, over on your old stomping grounds, in a thread titled "More Stuff to Chew On," Ray has come up with a really novel break shot. There is some question among the group as to whether you'd bless it as legal or not, as a starting break shot for your 14.1 Challenge.... So, what say you?
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The particular break shot shown above is not possible as a normal inter-rack break at 14.1.

In the fine print of the 14.1 challenge rules is the requirement that neither of the two loose balls be within a ball diameter of another ball. Similarly, you are not permitted to freeze the cue ball to the object ball and use the two-times-fuller interference system to send the cue ball into the rack.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The particular break shot shown above is not possible as a normal inter-rack break at 14.1.

In the fine print of the 14.1 challenge rules is the requirement that neither of the two loose balls be within a ball diameter of another ball. Similarly, you are not permitted to freeze the cue ball to the object ball and use the two-times-fuller interference system to send the cue ball into the rack.
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OK, tanks, Bob.

But just curious then -- did Duel's starting break shot meet the "ball diameter " criteria?

Lou Figueroa
still... thought Ray's idea was a great thought
 
lfigueroa said:
Bob, over on your old stomping grounds, in a thread titled "More Stuff to Chew On," Ray has come up with a really novel break shot. There is some question among the group as to whether you'd bless it as legal or not, as a starting break shot for your 14.1 Challenge.

Here's the shot:

http://cuetable.com/P/?@3AHfp4BCpA3...JFSe4KEMO3LBKO3MDvO4NBal3OBJl4PLNE3eFSe3eFSd@

So, what say you?

Lou Figueroa
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One upon a time, pre 1970s, the College Union Tournaments played
a game called something lile 'Keyshot Pocket Billiards'

It was sort of a modified version of 14.1 where each player shot
10 racks, with a limit of 10 balls pocketed per rack.
Add up all the balls made for each player to determine the winner
of each match - elimination brackets till they got down to the last two
who then played a 'real' game of straight pool to determine the
school champ.

Why does this matter, you may well be asking by now?

Well the Key Shot part was a similar idea to your diagram, a dead
ball to open each rack.

IIRC - the rear corner balls were pulled off a 15 ball rack and
set up frozen on the center spot - player shot from behind the
headstring - not too tough to pocket a ball in the side and drive the
other one into the head ball in the rack at near-warp speed,
while killing the CB near center table.

IMHO this is a way for intermediate 9 ballers to transition into 14.1.
At least, as a start for running strings of balls on an open table
where sequence is optional.

IIUC - sometime in the mid 60s the Unions dropped the keyshot
version and just played a Straight Pool Tournament.
I think that was the case when Mr Jewett competed

Dale<Union Champ in an earlier life...much earlier>
 
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lfigueroa said:
OK, tanks, Bob.

But just curious then -- did Duel's starting break shot meet the "ball diameter " criteria? ...
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Maybe not. I was either asleep at the switch or out to lunch.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Maybe not. I was either asleep at the switch or out to lunch.
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Hey!

It wasn't on my watch.

Lou Figueroa
only covered for Bob at breakfast time :-)
 
Bob Jewett said:
Maybe not. I was either asleep at the switch or out to lunch.
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oh, and by the way: I can understand how you might have missed it, when Jeannette was doing the same break shot :-)

Lou Figueroa
she made it look
so much better
 
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