14-1 is good practice ,,,,

[Chip Roberson]

+1 On the Johnny Holiday Book--I almost ran the 200 mark back when I was in my midtwenties, almost 40 years ago-(184)-I got a lot from that book back when. I give straight pool the same idea that came from Bobby Jones and Golf---My idea,play the table,and beat the table, with that you have beaten you adversaries,,,except Bobby Jone spoke of the Golf Course--The Inner game of tennis for the mind set, helped later for the idea of confronting control of the cueball--another great book, just think of the cueball when ever the auther mentions Tennisball, read it -- it does relate...Johhny Holiday--The Man With The Golden Arm--

 

[AtLarge]

I still don't quite understand the ball count thing. But it don't matter to me really.I read them posts 2-3 times,,don't make sense to me,,like I said. IDC lol
Is that how they keep score in high run challenge?? Verses a 2 player game? ...

Each time the balls are racked, it makes for a total of 15 balls on the table, and you pocket 14 of them (not 15) before re-racking. It's as simple as that -- 14 per rack, not 15. That's how straight pool games, as well as high-run competitions, are scored.

If you would accurately count the number of balls you made when you think you ran 45 (including the ball when you fouled), you would find that it was actually 42 before you fouled on the break shot. So your run was 42. In a real game, you would also deduct a point from your game total for the foul.

In an actual two-person game of straight pool, if neither player ever fouled, the sum of the two players' scores at the end of any rack is always a multiple of 14. If there have been fouls, the sum of the two scores is always a multiple of 14 minus the number of points lost by both players because of fouls.

I know you said you don't care about this. But if you have any continuing interest in 14.1, you'll have to care about it at some point.

I wish you well with 14.1.

 

[flash5153]

Each time the balls are racked, it makes for a total of 15 balls on the table, and you pocket 14 of them (not 15) before re-racking. It's as simple as that -- 14 per rack, not 15. That's how straight pool games, as well as high-run competitions, are scored.

If you would accurately count the number of balls you made when you think you ran 45 (including the ball when you fouled), you would find that it was actually 42 before you fouled on the break shot. So your run was 42. In a real game, you would also deduct a point from your game total for the foul.

In an actual two-person game of straight pool, if neither player ever fouled, the sum of the two players' scores at the end of any rack is always a multiple of 14. If there have been fouls, the sum of the two scores is always a multiple of 14 minus the number of points lost by both players because of fouls.

I know you said you don't care about this. But if you have any continuing interest in 14.1, you'll have to care about it at some point.

I wish you well with 14.1.

I am a little surprised to see you still talking about the scoring this morning. lol With my coffee!! But you are correct,,I do need to get it right.
I will start scoring this as you say. I am a believer!!!

Hopefully I can put something together on film. Even my little 3 rack run felt good. It seems much easier on paper,than what it really is.

I have been watching others ,on here,,run out a rack. They make it look easy at times but also are making some great/hard shots to continue.

There is pressure,,even when alone,,to not mis,,even in a short run like mine. Awesome!!

 

[Cornerman]

I still don't quite understand the ball count thing. But it don't matter to me really.I read them posts 2-3 times,,don't make sense to me,,like I said. IDC lol
Is that how they keep score in high run challenge?? Verses a 2 player game?

If you don't care, then maybe I shouldn't throw in my 2 centimos. IMO, you should care how to count.

It's called 14.1 because you only score up to 14 balls per rack.

If you ran two racks and miss the break ball on the third rack then you've run 14 x 2 racks = 28 balls.

If you ran three racks and foul on the break shot but make the break shot, you've run 14 x 3 racks = 42. You do not get credit for the break ball that pocketed.

And to make you care, had you not scratched on the break ball, a run of 43 is miles better than a 42. And anyone who's played 14.1 knows this. Having a high run divisible by 14 tells everyone you missed at the break.

Now go out there, count correctly and get that 100 ball run.

Freddie <~~~ would have told you good shooting otherwise

 

[flash5153]

If you don't care, then maybe I shouldn't throw in my 2 centimos. IMO, you should care how to count.

It's called 14.1 because you only score up to 14 balls per rack.

If you ran two racks and miss the break ball on the third rack then you've run 14 x 2 racks = 28 balls.

If you ran three racks and foul on the break shot but make the break shot, you've run 14 x 3 racks = 42. You do not get credit for the break ball that pocketed.

And to make you care, had you not scratched on the break ball, a run of 43 is miles better than a 42. And anyone who's played 14.1 knows this. Having a high run divisible by 14 tells everyone you missed at the break.

Now go out there, count correctly and get that 100 ball run.

Freddie <~~~ would have told you good shooting otherwise

LOL. I liked the way you word this. The break ball is giving me issues now. I have run out many many tables ,,but leaving the break ball very badly. Leaves that should be easy,,but getting on the wrong side of it,and it is over,,,,,,,--->Terrible.

I will give er a hellatry, but it might take me awhile for a 100. We will see.

 

[ctran]

14.1 is the game I want to play most, but only when I play alone, my friends don't play 14.1 and I can honestly say that is the practice they need to beat me lol.

I never get past 20 though, maybe I need some prize pressure.

 

[flash5153]

Well I got the camera going,,nothing special but I did manage to get a 32 run on video. ( I think 32)
I was all over the place on this run and ended up missing a easy shot using the bridge.
I have not had the 9 foot table very long and really never used a bridge much.
Finding I need it now and there is no other way.
Video is about 11 minutes long. Now the camera is acting up and won't stay on for some reason.

http://youtu.be/wslJ7Cq9jM4

 

[AtLarge]

Well I got the camera going,,nothing special but I did manage to get a 32 run on video. ( I think 32)
I was all over the place on this run and ended up missing a easy shot using the bridge.
I have not had the 9 foot table very long and really never used a bridge much.
Finding I need it now and there is no other way.
Video is about 11 minutes long. Now the camera is acting up and won't stay on for some reason.

http://youtu.be/wslJ7Cq9jM4

Yes, you counted correctly: (14 x 2) + 4 = 32.

You have an unusual closed bridge, but it seems to work for you!

 

[Island Drive]

Well I got the camera going,,nothing special but I did manage to get a 32 run on video. ( I think 32)
I was all over the place on this run and ended up missing a easy shot using the bridge.
I have not had the 9 foot table very long and really never used a bridge much.
Finding I need it now and there is no other way.
Video is about 11 minutes long. Now the camera is acting up and won't stay on for some reason.

http://youtu.be/wslJ7Cq9jM4

Hey, as you know its hard to run your first rack, let alone get into your second rack, and you actually go into a third rack ball count plus four balls, not bad. Don't beat your mental self up, when U do you've pulled your thoughts away from your error and that Never helps build muscle memory.

 

[elvicash]

If you don't care, then maybe I shouldn't throw in my 2 centimos. IMO, you should care how to count.

It's called 14.1 because you only score up to 14 balls per rack.

If you ran two racks and miss the break ball on the third rack then you've run 14 x 2 racks = 28 balls.

If you ran three racks and foul on the break shot but make the break shot, you've run 14 x 3 racks = 42. You do not get credit for the break ball that pocketed.

And to make you care, had you not scratched on the break ball, a run of 43 is miles better than a 42. And anyone who's played 14.1 knows this. Having a high run divisible by 14 tells everyone you missed at the break.

Now go out there, count correctly and get that 100 ball run.

Freddie <~~~ would have told you good shooting otherwise

Fred you are correct on the 14 balls per rack count normally but you can actually also score 15 balls in a given rack. That would happen if if on the last shot of a rack with 2 balls on the table plus the cue ball the shooter made both balls. The rack score is then 15 with the ball counts made being distributed to the players total running score. When this happens the racker will rack 15 balls into the rack just as on the opening break. Usually players will play safe but the are number of called shots which can be played out of a full rack.

 

[AtLarge]

Fred you are correct on the 14 balls per rack count normally but you can actually also score 15 balls in a given rack. That would happen if if on the last shot of a rack with 2 balls on the table plus the cue ball the shooter made both balls. ...

Good point. And that also creates an exception to the rule that the sum of the two players' scores at the end of any rack is a multiple of 14 minus the number of points lost by both players because of fouls.