1Pocket: what do you do? 11/18/07

In this situation, I'll shoot the cueball softly, with no english, into the top long rail approx. 1/3 of a diamond up from the short rail, rebounding back to very softly bump the inside of the 5 ball to the rail for a legal safety.......A decent one pocket player should have the required touch/cueball control to execute this shot - and obviously, if you hit it bad, you make sure to hit it bad on the inside of the 5, so you'll just lose a ball, not sell out the game.
 
I agree with the longrail kick here. If you hit it good and catch the inside of the 5, you put your opponent in alot of trouble. If you miss the 5 all together, you have to spot one, but your still in the game. Speed is the important factor here. JMO.

Southpaw
 
1 Pocket Ghost said:
In this situation, I'll shoot the cueball softly, with no english, into the top long rail approx. 1/3 of a diamond up from the short rail, rebounding back to very softly bump the inside of the 5 ball to the rail for a legal safety.......A decent one pocket player should have the required touch/cueball control to execute this shot - and obviously, if you hit it bad, you make sure to hit it bad on the inside of the 5, so you'll just lose a ball, not sell out the game.
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Nothing else that I can think of seems to have a better percentage than this. Good solution!
 
1 Pocket Ghost said:
In this situation, I'll shoot the cueball softly, with no english, into the top long rail approx. 1/3 of a diamond up from the short rail, rebounding back to very softly bump the inside of the 5 ball to the rail for a legal safety.......A decent one pocket player should have the required touch/cueball control to execute this shot - and obviously, if you hit it bad, you make sure to hit it bad on the inside of the 5, so you'll just lose a ball, not sell out the game.
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Jacked up or not, the Ghost's solution is the best available shot, assuming there is no scratch. Easy shot to execute w/o taking the foul.
 
That is the 4 rail i'm speaking of. And i was not talking about taking a foul, i'm talking about kicking the 5 my over towards my hole.
 
B_White said:
That is the 4 rail i'm speaking of. And i was not talking about taking a foul, i'm talking about kicking the 5 my over towards my hole.
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B, daddy has a birthday on Sat. Dec. 1st. Do you think you could make it into town?
 
How about jacking up masse style and stabbing medium into the 6 ball. Clear them both, 1 & 6, and leave the CB below the 5.
 
I like 2-railers like this. You can develop a decent feel for them without much effort. There's a legal hit here if you hit it well and a safe scratch if you underhit it. You also don't have to worry about roll-off.

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i 2 rail it back into the 6 .that is the only good shot. if you leave your opponent a chance to kick the 1 on his next turn your really in jail.
 
AZE said:
You both need two. You have the top pocket
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It's hard to determine the exact ball positions in your diagram. Are you frozen to the 6? Can you see the edge of the 5?

If you can see the edge of the 5, you should bank it and run the cue ball up table.

If you can't see the 5, but are frozen to the 6, just push through it, with draw and a light stroke. This will bank the 6 two rails around and put the cue ball behind the 1.

If you can't see the 5, but are not frozen to the 6, you should 1 rail kick to the bottom of the 5 - like below (this is a good alternative to the push also). I wouldn't kick off the head rail shooting over the 1 and 6, too many things can go wrong. I would only shoot a 2 or 3 rail kick at the 5 if I was just messing around, practicing, or was really mad at my wallet.

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IMO, these are the 3 easiest solutions. Easiest is (most often) the best solution...

-td
 
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I'm seeing some creative answers, some a little far-fetched.

TD873, that shot diagramed isn't very good. If you leave it as shown you're leaving a bank.
Franky, the two-railer (which is actually a 3-railer) isn't good for obvious reasons.
Patric, I really don't think the outcome would be like that -- if it would then amazing, but I doubt it.

I like the ideas to kick 1-rail behind the 5. I also like the 3/4-railer to tuck on it.

Let's see what else you guys can come up with.
 
AZE said:
Franky, the two-railer (which is actually a 3-railer) isn't good for obvious reasons.
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:D I get a legal hit or get safe via a foul a respectable percentage of the time. Its good for me, not for people who don't shoot 2-railers or plus-system shots. If you don't shoot them, you will have no feel for the return track. On this particular shot, its pretty hard to sell out with my 2 (or 3 or 4) rail pattern. Perhaps I'll shoot it a few times tomorrow and let you know what numbers I come up with. The short 1-rail kick is decent too, but is somewhat likely to leave a bank.

There are other decent options here though, that's for sure. :)
 
Well, laundry detail had me just in the basement, and being curious, I had to actually set this shot up and try it after seeing all these multi rail solutions.

I had to end up using a bridge to reach this shot comfortably, but after setting it up and approaching it on a table, I found I didn't have to jack way up as I initially posted. I merely put the bridge up on end and at an about 60 degree angle, nipped it with a tad of draw.

I was easily able to slide the cue to the bottom rail and clear the two balls.

I don't see any need to jump through dangerous hoops for this shot. :(
 
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