"2-ball and out..." Meaning?
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Ask.... tho sounds like a nit expression saying I can spot you a ton to get you to bet/or?.
As I've heard it, to spot someone "and out" means that and all the following balls are winning balls for the spotee. "I'll spot you the five-out," is the way I think it is usually said, and that means the 5, 6, 7, and 8 are immediate wins. However, it is better to ask all the details before the game starts. Like whether balls count on the break. So in the fourth rack you finally get to break and finally make a ball -- the 8 -- and the opponent says, "No, they don't count on the break, of course. They never count on the break. And it stays down."
If you legally make any ball with number 2 or higher except on the break you win that rack, is what it would normally mean.
Obviously, this is a giant spot only meant for a considerable difference in skill level.
Since it's soooo many balls the caveat might be made that you have to always call the ball you're about to pot.
Obviously, this is a giant spot only meant for a considerable difference in skill level.
Since it's soooo many balls the caveat might be made that you have to always call the ball you're about to pot.
Or the spotter gets all the breaks.
Or the woofing got to a point of ?????????????
Garo 7
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Heh... yeah, I can just imagine. lol That's a huge spot then, the 2 ball and out.
Garo 7
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Yeah, no kidding.
i learned a long time ago that the wekaer player usually loses because the better player usually wont give you a spot that gives you a chance
(except for the guys who like to try to "out run the nuts")
so in this case
the guy giving the spot knows he has no problem running a rack of 9 ball and commonly runs 2 or 3 packs (or more)
you can barely run 2 or 3 but think
i have almost the whole table to win...i only have to make 1 ball !!!!!!
you think its a good bet but the reality is
you wont get to shoot very much...will lose games never getting to the table
and the better player will play safes on you you cant get out of
what i am trying to say
you have no chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JMHO
ICBW
Fat Randy used to spot 'pigeons' the 2 or 3b all the time. Not the 2-out just one ball. Sounds great to drunk idiots until they realize they rarely ever get to shoot at those balls with Randy breaking. I saw him give the 5b to pretty good players and just torture them on a Valley with the mudball(not to be confused with the 'big' cueball).
Fat Randy is a name I haven't heard in a while. I remember a set in Denver with Danny Medina playing someone. I can't remember who right now. But Fat Randy was sitting on a stool in the corner right next to the table and right behind Danny. Danny was shooting a difficult case 9-ball and the stool Randy was sitting on exploded under his weight. Loud crash, lots of shouting and Danny never even flinched. Made the 9 ball.
I asked Danny how he didn't get distracted. "By what?" He didn't even notice it because he was so focused on the shot.
Truth.
If a good player offers you a spot that you can't lose. Odds are you can't win.
I have posted this before but back in the late 80s or early 90s the BCA league 8-ball championship was in Denver. Melvin Sharpe was holding court. Betting all comers for $20/game. The game was 9-ball rack, playing 8-ball. Challenger was stripes and only had to make the 9 ball and 8 ball. Melvin, on the other hand, was solids and had to bank every ball, in rotation, and then make the 8-ball to win. He was running racks and made hundreds of dollars that day. I wasn't smart enough to figure out how hard it was but I was smart enough to figure out not to play him that way.
Melvin was the cat i saw play in Hutchinson at one of the big Cowboy Casino events. That dude took more practice strokes than anyone i ever saw. We counted over 25 on a few shots. I don't know if that was his deal or just a shark move. He didn't last long in the event, can't remember who beat him but that place was full of champions.
Yep. That’s him. Lol. 25-27 practice strokes every time.
He usually washed out of those kind of tournaments then his backer would put him in action.
He was playing a guy in Texas one time and just using a ton of English. The guy he was playing was very patronizing to him. Kept saying stuff like “I like you! You’re ok”. And how much English he used.
After goofing around for a while Melvin buried him and busted him. To the tune of 20k.
Melvin doesn’t talk at all when he’s playing. The guy quits and Melvin says “How do you like me now?” Lol.
This was before that phrase was popular. Word of that spread back in Denver and every pool player was saying that every time they made a shot or played a safe. It was crazy. Melvin would walk in a place and people would just yell it at him.
is Melvin still around?
Last I heard he was in Las Vegas and still being staked. He would be in his late 60s now I think.