2 Rail Banking Angles?

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A while ago I was looking into buying a one pocket book (can't remember which one) and the review said that it came with a diagram showing all of the angles for banking a ball two rails. Does anyone have a copy of this chart that I can have? I have a very hard time visualizing two rail banks...
 
koehlers (sp?) one pocket book has some diagrams of multi rail banking tracks
 
Koehler has a nice diagram that shows all of the banking track lines in one pocket....2 rail, 3, 4, 5, etc. And it's overlayed real nice. Want me to scan it in pdf and get it to you somehow?
 
Koehler has a nice diagram that shows all of the banking track lines in one pocket....2 rail, 3, 4, 5, etc. And it's overlayed real nice. Want me to scan it in pdf and get it to you somehow?

That would be amazing!!! I would owe you big time for that!
 
I would be interested in that diagram !!

That is something that I'm working on in my game right now.

If anyone else would have a diagram of the " Diamond " Tract lines or where I could go to get it that would be great !! :)
 
Freddy's banking with the beard book shows alot of systems for multi rail one pocket banks and his Banks that don't go but do video shows some great one pocket banks too.
 
I just goolged the book they mentioned by Jack and a picture showed up that may be what you are looking for.
 
Brac

A while ago I was looking into buying a one pocket book (can't remember which one) and the review said that it came with a diagram showing all of the angles for banking a ball two rails. Does anyone have a copy of this chart that I can have? I have a very hard time visualizing two rail banks...

The Drill Instructor...sells a thing called the brac. Most of your one pocket two railers are off the long rail first then the short rail some short rail first ...

From the second diamond on the long rail to the middle diamond on the short is the pocket in the corner. The best thing you can do for those is shoot them until you make them then do that a few times and try from other angles. that way you know how to manipulate them...no system for that.
 
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2 rail shots

I use mirrors.

Have some one hold them or buy or make your own mounting brackets with suction cups on the bottom so they will stay in place.
Mount the mirrors to the top of the rails using the suction cups then make sure the mirrors are even to the side of the cushion.
Then look into the mirrors and the reflection will have the pocket in the reflection you wish to pocket the ball in.
After using the mirrors for a while you mind can imagine the shot and you don't need the mirrors any more.....

This technic was invented back in the late 1800's to the very early 1900's for billiards

System works great and will teach you angles and was speeds the cue ball should be shot at....
 
I struggle with the two rail bank where the ball is by my opponent's pocket and I'm trying to hit two rails back to my pocket. Generally is it better to hit this shot with inside or outside English?
 
I use mirrors.

Have some one hold them or buy or make your own mounting brackets with suction cups on the bottom so they will stay in place.
Mount the mirrors to the top of the rails using the suction cups then make sure the mirrors are even to the side of the cushion.
Then look into the mirrors and the reflection will have the pocket in the reflection you wish to pocket the ball in.
After using the mirrors for a while you mind can imagine the shot and you don't need the mirrors any more.....

This technic was invented back in the late 1800's to the very early 1900's for billiards

System works great and will teach you angles and was speeds the cue ball should be shot at....

Mirrors will not help on a two rail bank. If you setup one mirror you will simply be looking at another rail through a mirror. If you setup two mirrors the reflection angle will be much different than the actual angle the ball travels because of the spin it picks up off the first rail.
 
I struggle with the two rail bank where the ball is by my opponent's pocket and I'm trying to hit two rails back to my pocket. Generally is it better to hit this shot with inside or outside English?

This is a very good question. You're talking about banking long rail to long rail to pocket. I am always confused about the english on this shot as well.

I think these are best to shoot without any english but I could be wrong. If I use any english I am always surprised at the result after contact with the second rail which is never a good thing lol. All I know for sure is that the second rail always kills the angle if you shoot without english. Maybe someone else can better answer this question.

I think in John Brumback's video he shows an example of this shot where you have to use english to prevent a double kiss. I'll have to rewatch it to remember what he used.
 
Mirrors will not help on a two rail bank. If you setup one mirror you will simply be looking at another rail through a mirror. If you setup two mirrors the reflection angle will be much different than the actual angle the ball travels because of the spin it picks up off the first rail.

That is why you must mount a laser to your pool stick... :wink:
 
Mirrors will not help on a two rail bank. If you setup one mirror you will simply be looking at another rail through a mirror. If you setup two mirrors the reflection angle will be much different than the actual angle the ball travels because of the spin it picks up off the first rail.
Well, you can set up a mirrored target for a two-cushion bank as described in the July article in this year of articles: http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/2004.pdf

In the particular case of one pocket and the two-rail bank (side rail, head rail) you can often use a spot in the room as your target. This is a very old technique that is sometimes called "spot on the wall" although the wall is usually in the wrong place. Also, the correct target moves depending on how you hit the ball and how far the ball starts from the first cushion.

I think what most people discover when actually trying the perfect mirror target/idea is that rails don't work like mirrors although they can come close in some situations.
 
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