2 Rails in the corner
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you can use the spot on the wall
if on a 9x4.5 go 4.5 ft out and then 9ft up from top corner. That imaginary spot on the wall is where you aim the OBJ ball at.
You can also cut the distance in half b/t the obj ball and obj pocket. At the middle point make a straight line with the cue from that point through the center of the pocket cata-corner to the obj pocket. Parallel that line onto the obj ball and hit the point on the ball that the line intersects.
Just pm me if you can't understand and ill draw it out for ya
Grey GHost
if on a 9x4.5 go 4.5 ft out and then 9ft up from top corner. That imaginary spot on the wall is where you aim the OBJ ball at.
You can also cut the distance in half b/t the obj ball and obj pocket. At the middle point make a straight line with the cue from that point through the center of the pocket cata-corner to the obj pocket. Parallel that line onto the obj ball and hit the point on the ball that the line intersects.
Just pm me if you can't understand and ill draw it out for ya
Grey GHost
I use the parallel as a refernce that Grey ghost mentioned. You have to combine feel to make with what the parallel lin is telling you. Learning how to feel the shot comes from practice, having the refernce zones you in.
In 3 Cushion there the +2 System. For instance 1/2 diamond from the corner 2 tips English will send the ball 2 diamonds from the origin. 1 diamond from the corner gives you 3 diamonds. Locating the ball position simply draw a line across the table. Now there are adjustments for the first rail depending on where the CB is located along the long. Banking a ball using this system will simply give you a solid reference point for practice. For instance, found that kicking 3 rails on a pool table the CB comes up 1/2 diamond short to the 5 system. Just make the simple 1/2 diamond adjustment.
I don't play much pool but I'd say Randyg is right that the OB will come long since there's not a lot, or no spin on the OB going into the first rail.
I don't play much pool but I'd say Randyg is right that the OB will come long since there's not a lot, or no spin on the OB going into the first rail.
2 rails-HUGE move in 1 hole
I play a guy who is good at this shot and have watched many matches
where this shot is taken.After being impressed with the shot I casually
started to try it.I found that tables play way different,and speed-more
speed-less speed are also huge factors.I advocate practice,practice,
practice-change all variables and you may surprise yourself and your
opponents.Good luck and remember where whitey goes is as often twice as
important as where the object ball or balls go! Jack
I play a guy who is good at this shot and have watched many matches
where this shot is taken.After being impressed with the shot I casually
started to try it.I found that tables play way different,and speed-more
speed-less speed are also huge factors.I advocate practice,practice,
practice-change all variables and you may surprise yourself and your
opponents.Good luck and remember where whitey goes is as often twice as
important as where the object ball or balls go! Jack
Someone posted some really useful info on kicking sytems a while back. It was in multiple segments. Even though I really found the information usefull, could someone recomend a comprehensive instructional book that covers 2 and 3 rail kicking and banking systems? Thank you.
Sorry for hijacking the post, but I feel that it might help answer the original question.
Bob P.
Sorry for hijacking the post, but I feel that it might help answer the original question.
Bob P.
Sure there are a lot of guys which playin bankshots just with *feeling*- but i recommend each time and to everybody to spend times on kicking/banking-systems. There are many systems in 3 cushion billard- but for pool there are 2 systems that i really can recommend. One from Raymond Ceulemans and the *plus system* a guy already talked about in another post before. You can find both in the book *Mister 100*- but i m sure you could find it also somewhere in the internet. Both systems are playable successfully on a pool-table- but like always you need to practice a lot- and u need a good and repeatable (reproducable) stroke.
If you are just looking for a short/long/short system then you have to look for the *plus-system*. If u re not able to find it don t hesitate to contact me through PM.
lg
Ingo
If you are just looking for a short/long/short system then you have to look for the *plus-system*. If u re not able to find it don t hesitate to contact me through PM.
lg
Ingo
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-Sean aka "moose"
-Sean aka "moose"
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opcoog13: i really recommend that if you wanna *learn* a system to do this with a guy who is perfect on this! The reason is, that you need for several systems *the stroke* for it. If your stroke is wrong- the system won t work. And even so the systems are almost all overtaken from 3-Cushion Billiards. There are small differences on a pool-table- And because of this i recommended you to *learn* for example the 3-Cushion System from *Ceuleman/Vingerhoed* and the *Plus-System* (how i shown up before both in the Book *Mr 100). These 2 Systems will help you a lot. The perfect way would be to find a nice 3-Cushion Player to learn those 2 systems on a Carambolage Table to see how both would and will run perfectly. And if you then knew em both you can go to a pool-table and *transfer* em both with your theoretical knowledgement.
(and again, wihout any idear to tease you: both systems need totally different strokes
)
lg
Ingo
(and again, wihout any idear to tease you: both systems need totally different strokes
)lg
Ingo
The plus systems are completely different than the two rail shots in Beards book. The carom systems are based on using running english, and they don't match up with hitting the object balls on the same tracks. Object balls will go much longer hitting the same spot. The carom tracks are good for kicks, are a little tricky regarding how much english you use, but are good to know.
There are other systems basically the same as the plus 2 systems for shooting the object balls, but the "plus" numbers are much different.
I don't have my copy handy, but I'd guess Beards' books go over how to estimate the hit point between his diagrammed examples. Speed into the rails and the english on the ball greatly affect this shot,too, so memory (feel) might still be the best method.
There is a discussion of this very thing on onepocket.org that popped up just this week.
There are other systems basically the same as the plus 2 systems for shooting the object balls, but the "plus" numbers are much different.
I don't have my copy handy, but I'd guess Beards' books go over how to estimate the hit point between his diagrammed examples. Speed into the rails and the english on the ball greatly affect this shot,too, so memory (feel) might still be the best method.
There is a discussion of this very thing on onepocket.org that popped up just this week.