2015 China Open 9ball (2-5 July2015) Shanghai

You know I didn't catch what game number this is because the girl walked around too fast.
Was wondering - could she walk around one more time? :grin:
 
Albin is really playing some great pool. As he pocketed the two, a somewhat bad roll left him hooked on the three ball but he gathered himself and made a sensational kick safe that won him control of the rack at a key moment in the match. He now leads 9-6 and the finish line isn't too far away for Albin.
 
Morra runs them to pull within two racks.

Albin 9 John 7 with Albin to break.
 
How does that 5-ball fall... this table is a 9-foot bar box and these guys are playing it with the same type of style as pros do on the box.

Morra is in deep trouble, on this table being down effectively two breaks with your opponent on the hill is a bad spot.
 
Huge break upcoming for Albin, basically if you don't break and run here you can expect to be breaking at 10-10 and at that score weird things tend to happen.
 
How does that 5-ball fall... this table is a 9-foot bar box and these guys are playing it with the same type of style as pros do on the box.

Morra is in deep trouble, on this table being down effectively two breaks with your opponent on the hill is a bad spot.

Yeah, this equipment is really easy and add "break anywhere behind the line" and you can see why nine ball isn't played this way anymore. Oddly enough, this same "obsolete" break rule was used at the last Mosconi.

That said, Albin Ouschan has been superb this week and is a very deserving champion. Well played!
 
How does that 5-ball fall... this table is a 9-foot bar box and these guys are playing it with the same type of style as pros do on the box.

I agree. These pockets are too big and too forgiving. That 5-ball misses the pocket entirely where I play (which are admittedly tight pockets, but top level pros should be playing on difficult equipment--at least difficult enough to where that 5-ball doesn't drop).
 
Albin Ouschan takes the win 11-8 over John Morra.

No dry breaks. Morra had the worst of it on bad rolls. Both played perfect on last 2/3 of match.
 
Here are some numbers on the finals match.

Made at least one ball on the break and did not foul:
• Ouschan --10 of 10, but one was illegal (surrendered table)
• Morra -- 9 of 9
• Both -- 19 of 19, including the wing ball every darn time

Breaker won game:
• Ouschan -- 9 of 10
• Morra -- 7 of 9
• Both -- 16 of 19, including the last 13 games in a row

Break-and-run games:
• Ouschan -- 6 of 10
• Morra -- 5 of 9
• Both -- 11 of 19, including 6 in a row (Games 8-13) and 4 in a row (Games 16-19)

Missed shots:
• Ouschan -- 2
• Morra -- 0 or 1, depending on intent on a bank or a safe in Game 5

Fouls:
• Ouschan -- 0
• Morra -- 1
 
Now we know more about what Jay Helfert posted a couple days ago:

"Shane got in a little while ago, none too pleased with the set up in China. Alternate break 9-Ball with big pockets does not suit him. He said the wing ball went every time."

But, someone was going to win that event, and Albin certainly did a great job of it. And congrats to John Morra for doing so well.
 
Now the Girls are on.
Only break and runs - no mistakes made yet at 3:2.
The pockets might be easy, but still, they are playing on top level!
 
Albin Ouschan takes the win 11-8 over John Morra.

No dry breaks. Morra had the worst of it on bad rolls. Both played perfect on last 2/3 of match.

Bad rolls and unlucky breaks aside, overall Ouschan played a more confident game. He deserved to come out on top.

Now we know more about what Jay Helfert posted a couple days ago:

"Shane got in a little while ago, none too pleased with the set up in China. Alternate break 9-Ball with big pockets does not suit him. He said the wing ball went every time."

But, someone was going to win that event, and Albin certainly did a great job of it. And congrats to John Morra for doing so well.

A champion is one who can adapt and rise above all given the same set of conditions.

If you can't operate within the circumstances that everyone else in the world is working with, then you'll not be a "world" champion. You could setup the tightest table in your home room and be your own "home room champion".

It reminds me of Earl's complain about large pockets. Shane needs to stop whining and just go do it.

Now the Girls are on.
Only break and runs - no mistakes made yet at 3:2.
The pockets might be easy, but still, they are playing on top level!

Ga Young Kim will win. She's just stronger than Fu overall. In recent years, I don't think any girl can beat Ga Young in a 10-ball race to 100.
 
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mens champion Albin Ouschan-- ladies Ga Young Kim

John Morra played great to take 2nd in a monster field

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Now we know more about what Jay Helfert posted a couple days ago:

"Shane got in a little while ago, none too pleased with the set up in China. Alternate break 9-Ball with big pockets does not suit him. He said the wing ball went every time."

But, someone was going to win that event, and Albin certainly did a great job of it. And congrats to John Morra for doing so well.

Now that's funny Shane crying about the break


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nice pay day for John, after chinese tax witholding will be
20k with usa/canada exchange

(not sure of revenue canada dings him on that....hope not)
 
Now we know more about what Jay Helfert posted a couple days ago:

"Shane got in a little while ago, none too pleased with the set up in China. Alternate break 9-Ball with big pockets does not suit him. He said the wing ball went every time."

I think the "break from anywhere in the by kitchen" rule was the bigger problem.

In nine ball, it was determined long ago that this was too easy for the top pros. Add in bucket pockets and it's way too easy and the advantage normally enjoyed by the top breakers is marginalized. Obviously, with these break rules and playing conditions, anything but alternate break would have been ridiculous.

Loose equipment, break anywhere in the kitchen, alternate break was also used in the 2014 Mosconi and, as we saw, it didn't suit SVB there .... but that said, SVB has the skills to win whatever the break rule and table conditions are and needs to keep his excuses to himself. Niels Feijen made similar excuses about the rules/conditions not suiting him at the 2014 US Open and most of us here on the forum were repulsed by those comments.

Let's give Albin Ouschan all the credit in the world here for his fine play, but let's not dismiss Shane's comments as unimportant.

Let's see how they set things up at the World Pool Masters next month.
 
I think the "break from anywhere in the by kitchen" rule was the bigger problem.

In nine ball, it was determined long ago that this was too easy for the top pros. Add in bucket pockets and it's way too easy and the advantage normally enjoyed by the top breakers is marginalized. Obviously, with these break rules and playing conditions, anything but alternate break would have been ridiculous.

Loose equipment, break anywhere in the kitchen, alternate break was also used in the 2014 Mosconi and, as we saw, it didn't suit SVB there .... but that said, SVB has the skills to win whatever the break rule and table conditions are and needs to keep his excuses to himself. Niels Feijen made similar excuses about the rules/conditions not suiting him at the 2014 US Open and most of us here on the forum were repulsed by those comments.

Let's give Albin Ouschan all the credit in the world here for his fine play, but let's not dismiss Shane's comments as unimportant.

Let's see how they set things up at the World Pool Masters next month.

They are unimportant comments from Shane ,, when he puts up the money for his own turny he can have his winner break winner pattern racking rules in place ,, until that happens if he don't like the rules don't play ,

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They are unimportant comments from Shane ,, when he puts up the money for his own turny he can have his winner break winner pattern racking rules in place ,, until that happens if he don't like the rules don't play ,



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Did Shane say something to you face to face that hurt you or disrespected you? Are you mad because you bet money on him and lost?

Has he ever said anything about pattern racking? Have you ever sat and talked to him personally about the rack, rules, etc?

he deserves to have an opinion as he plays at a high level, and has worked hard to get there. In other words his opinion carries more weight than yours




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