That final i guess was using a sundial.
Sorry, but I have to spread some rep before giving it to you again.
That final i guess was using a sundial.
I walked away from this at around 8-8 point. There was ZERO flow to the game. IIRC only two b-n-r's at that point. Not entertaining in the LEAST. Pool's in bad enough shape as it is, crap like this doesn't help. At all.
I just watched the last rack, and with Great shape on the 1 ball after the break, then they cut immediately to the the video to him being straight in on the 5 ball. HUH????????????
When/where did they say that?
You're good. I couldn't remember who he quoted. ThanxAfter the first timeout in the final match, Ted Lerner (commentating) said that he had spoken with one of the heads of the QBSF during the timeout, and they are going to use a 45-sec. clock next year.
Edit -- oops, sorry gar, just read your post #298.
The Gorst/Chang final (going by the recording, which skips a few shots a couple times) was about 243 minutes, for an average of 10.1 minutes per game.
I would think it would be once there are no balls moving on the table.
"If it were me, on that table at that stage of that championship, I’d take as long a time as needed or more (never less). The only reasons for taking less time are being in a hurry cos you’ve got to be somewhere else (rather unlikely), bottling it, being an idiot, or because there is a shot clock. It would be an unrealistic expectation for players in this tournament to want to fall into any of those categories."
Pathetic attempt to defend slow play.
45 seconds is far too long for a typical shot in 9 ball.
I think John Schmidt took a few minutes less to run 626 than this finals took....
....can you confirm?
I love watching JL Chang play, he reminds me of Buddy, but the hill-hill game with Casper
was ridiculous.....he needs a clock, for sure.
Yes 45 is far too long for a typical shot. But a shot clock needs to take into account the fact that not all shots are typical.
So we could have (amongst a range of possibilities):
1) 45s clock with one or two “slow” players averaging 35-40s.
2) 20s shot clock with all players playing fast but some hurried decisions on some layouts and positions that lead to a reduction in the quality of the play.
I’d go for 1 over 2 despite those who shout that their experience of a whole tournament is ruined by some dude playing slow.
No one is complaining about just one player. Gorst just happens to be at the forefront of the discussion because he won and his final match took 4 hours.
Everyone was playing slow.
Because there was no shot clock.
Have you seen the run to confirm that
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No, my info is from an article or a post on AZ...I didn’t locate it to be sure.
Well that would be you and the rest of the pool world except the keepers
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I think John Schmidt took a few minutes less to run 626 than this finals took....
....can you confirm? ...
To be fair, Gorst overall played much much faster than JL.
I was watching the match on Youtube after the fact, so it was easy to keep skipping ahead 5 seconds over and over again. Even with that shortcut, it was painful watching JL's up/down over and over again. ...
True.
4 hrs. and 3 min. is what I have read in two places for the length of John's run. That's just under 2.6 balls per minute.
The Gorst/Chang final is also 4 hrs and 3 min. on the recording, but the recording skips several shots in two different games, so it was really a few minutes longer than that. One game ended with a 2/9 combo, so I think they pocketed 210 balls including those on the breaks. If we use 243 minutes, the average balls per minute is a bit under 0.9, or about one-third the pace of the Schmidt run.
I didn't watch the final, or any match in this year's WC for that matter. I tried to watch the final for 30 minutes, but it was just too damn agonizing. Too slow, no ambiance (I don't know the right word...) cause there is exactly no one there in that immense hall to watch it. As a pool fanatic I am ashamed that this is the World Championships in 9ball, which is supposed to be the main event in the year.
I just skipped to the final rack the next day, saw Gorst throw his stick to the floor as hard he could cause I guess that's what you're supposed to do now.