2025 Men's World 10-Ball Championship, Sept. 20-28 -- General Comments Thread

jbart65 said:
The tables don't seem to play like a Diamond or Rasson. The balls seem to roll faster, but the balls seem to leave the break slower (the rack?). I've seen lots of odd misses. Then there is the weird two-of-three set format instead of three of five.

Some good pool being played, but I can't get all that excited.
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it's the racking. the same old wonky "aero" rack they're peddling, and the refs not being too meticulous. hence most players are breaking from the side
 
jbart65 said:
The tables don't seem to play like a Diamond or Rasson. The balls seem to roll faster, but the balls seem to leave the break slower (the rack?). I've seen lots of odd misses. Then there is the weird two-of-three set format instead of three of five.

Some good pool being played, but I can't get all that excited.
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There have been some brow-raising moments with the Arc this tournament (at least table 1). There have been a few balls around the sides that have rolled really weird.
 
garczar said:
I think this format is ok for a regular Pred. tour stop but to use it in a WC event is a fkng joke. Anyone who wins a world title in this format should have an asterisk next to their name.
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I see a handful of the regulars here making comments like this, and I'm trying to understand the perspective.

Other than that we're used to single longer races and we've always done it like that (which I don't dismiss as nothing), can people weigh in on what it is that feels better about a single longer race? For the discussion here, let's just compare best-of-3 races to 4 to a single race to 9 and leave the shootout out of the discussion for now.
 
mikepage said:
I see a handful of the regulars here making comments like this, and I'm trying to understand the perspective.

Other than that we're used to single longer races and we've always done it like that (which I don't dismiss as nothing), can people weigh in on what it is that feels better about a single longer race? For the discussion here, let's just compare best-of-3 races to 4 to a single race to 9 and leave the shootout out of the discussion for now.
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I like the best of 3 sets to 4 with winner break. It gives the ability to put packs together while also giving a chance to return serve. Best of both worlds. Also has natural breaks built in for the players/officials/fans.
 
mikepage said:
I see a handful of the regulars here making comments like this, and I'm trying to understand the perspective.

Other than that we're used to single longer races and we've always done it like that (which I don't dismiss as nothing), can people weigh in on what it is that feels better about a single longer race? For the discussion here, let's just compare best-of-3 races to 4 to a single race to 9 and leave the shootout out of the discussion for now.
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I think your data has shown there is no difference in predicted outcomes between the two (ignoring the shootout)?

I suppose there is a thrill of a bigger comeback with the race to 9, but comebacks are more likely with set approach.
 
jay helfert said:
Not so long ago there was an absence of good tournaments for the pros to compete in. Now they have too many and have to pick their spots. I guess you could call that progress.
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Too much is definitely better than too little, but I have to wonder if it means more future conflict.

I get the sense WNT and WPA/Predator are moving to try to expand their calendars to get the best dates before the other organization does. Crowd each other out.

The calendar is especially crowded right now. We have:

WPA 10-ball (9/20 - 9/28)
Peri Open ((10/2 - 10/5)
Hanoi Open (10/7 to 10/12)
WPA 8-ball (10/9 - 10/13)
Reyes Cup (10/16 - 10/19)
Philippines Open (10/21 - 10/26)
*Qatar 10-ball World Cup (10/23 - 11/2)
WPM (November?)
International (11/17 - 11/22)

*Qualifying starts 10/23, but main event starts 10/28.

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It will be very interesting to see who skips Hanoi and the Philippines Open and who goes to Qatar. Filler and SVB for sure.

Filler is going to WPA 8-ball and is shown in the promo for Qatar. I imagine most Predator players will follow suit.

Doesn't look like Filler will play any WNT-affiliated events until perhaps the International, which is also WPA sanctioned. It would seem he's a no-go for the Reyes and Mosconi.

SVB is also doing the WPA circuit. Both the 10-ball and 8-ball events and Qatar. Definitely no Philippines Open and probably no Reyes Cup. Mosconi seems doubtful too unless WNT changes/clarifies its rules.

The promo for Qatar shows Mario He, Kazakis and ... Wiktor Wielinksi.

The first promo of names from WNT for the Philippines Open lists
  • Carlo Biado
  • Johann Chua
  • Francisco Sánchez Ruiz
  • Jayson Shaw
  • Anton Raga
  • David Alcaide
  • Duong Quoc Hoang
  • Bernie Regalario
  • Mickey Krause
  • James Aranas

Gorst is not listed, but his face is on the promo. I assume he will be on the Reyes World Team (and Mosconi too).
 
skogstokig said:
thing is they said they we're gonna change to best of five sets, but then they reverted back. ...
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The double-elimination stage is best of 3 sets, races to 4; single elimination (Last 32) is best of 5 sets, races to 4.

The women's 9-Ball event is best of 3 sets in both stages.
 
benjaminwah said:
Why is there a big DIS next to a bunch of player’s names like Raga? Are they disqualified? What happened?
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Five players forfeited in the first round -- no-shows, I imagine -- Al Shaheen, Lombardo, Raga, Holem, and Dang. They were marked with "FF" in that round.

The same 5 players are marked with "DIS" in the Loser Round 1.

So the 96-player event was really 91.
 
mikepage said:
I see a handful of the regulars here making comments like this, and I'm trying to understand the perspective.

Other than that we're used to single longer races and we've always done it like that (which I don't dismiss as nothing), can people weigh in on what it is that feels better about a single longer race? For the discussion here, let's just compare best-of-3 races to 4 to a single race to 9 and leave the shootout out of the discussion for now.
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Seriously?? If i play a champion short races and winner break i have a shot, a very small one but a shot. In a long race ,regardless of who breaks, i have zero chance. These short sets allow lesser players to have a chance. Doesn't take a supercomputer full of numbers to see that. As i said before its fine for a regular event but to crown a World Champion??? Gimme a break. Would you think that 50pt. games would be ok to determine a World 14.1 champ??? Yeah right.
 
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