2025 Mosconi rosters - Euro changes a coming

USA's world class players since the Mosconi Cup began have been in reverse chronological order:

Shane
Archer
Strickland
Sigel/Varner (about same age)

5 players. I may have missed a couple. The time span between Shane and Archer was large. Even larger, no one has come up after Shane, which is now 18 years later! (2007, his breakout year).

wouldn't you say corey filled that spot between archer and shane? corey, JJ, schmidt would all have been reigning US open champions at some MC they played. i kind of get what you mean by world class in terms of WC winner, or sustained world class level, but some guys had a couple of years when they were at that level.
 
I hesitate to say this, but I'll say it. Will Fedor represent Russia at some point in the future after the Ukraine-Russia war ends? Seeing him travel the world and be in the top rankings must be a boon to Russian sports. Somehow he has avoided the Russian mandatory draft.

Jayson Shaw plays for Team Europe (Scotland), yet lives here in the United States, as an example.

I am sure Fedor and Kristina are proud of their Russian heritage, though they do live here in the United States, much like Jayson. If Fedor did switch flags, however, he would not be eligible to play for Team Europe or Team USA.
 
wouldn't you say corey filled that spot between archer and shane? corey, JJ, schmidt would all have been reigning US open champions at some MC they played. i kind of get what you mean by world class in terms of WC winner, or sustained world class level, but some guys had a couple of years when they were at that level.
USopen of old doesn't have the same foothold of legacy as the new version. Gets that open the door to the comparing eras argument.
 
Team USA far from settled in terms of points, but almost impossible to see anyone outside the group of Gorst, SVB, Sky, Tyler, Thorpe, Woolford and Dominguez.

Assuming everyone is healthy, that is.

I wonder why Tony Chohan never gets any recognition for rotation games. His 779 FargoRate didn’t come from 1P. Doesn’t he play better than Wollford?
 
USopen of old doesn't have the same foothold of legacy as the new version. Gets that open the door to the comparing eras argument.

sure, but even if participation wasn't as international then, corey still whitewashed the world champion when he won. and the US mosconi team won 12 - 1 that year.
 
I wonder why Tony Chohan never gets any recognition for rotation games. His 779 FargoRate didn’t come from 1P. Doesn’t he play better than Wollford?

one pocket is included in fargo. iirc tony's fargo jumped ~20p when they started counting one pocket
 
I agree, they would... That's the unfortunate reality when a player such as Filler wants two slices of cake. MR would be better served with a hardline for their contracted players to prevent them from playing in other organization's events. That would prevent the scenario you're describing. They (MR) opted to not to force mandates. In this case they were awarded by one of the very best not support them. Clearly a case of biting the hand that feeds you. MR saw fit not to provide Mr. Filler desert. Good on them....
You think keeping the best player in the world from making $$$ is a good thing?
 
You think keeping the best player in the world from making $$$ is a good thing?
I think people fulfilling contracts they willingly entered is a good thing. I know some, (not saying you specifically) want to paint MR as some evil do'er. However, they have a business to run and securing talent to showcase is only a smart move. IMHO, they took a high road by not locking down players. They sell it as though they 'want' players to be successful at large and don't necessarily care if they play whatever as long as they don't hurt their (MR's) product. I don't work for matchroom so I only know what I'm fed.

If Filler wanted free reign to do whatever he wants whenever he wants. Then he shouldn't have climbed in bed with MR. He simply could go through the qualifying rounds to reach the main draw of MR tourneys like the rest of us hacks. However, I'm guessing he chased the money and thought about the free cash some the invite events that MR provides. I don't blame Filler for anything. Just have zero sympathy that he got a swat on the nose.

Do you think a player, that you have recently gotten under contract to support your product, who then reneges on doing so shouldn't be punished..? ...and the punishment isn't even a suspension from regular play. Which would be typical in a breach of contract, but merely the removal of an invite to an invitational event that you host to showcase your org's talent. ...and in which each player receives a healthy appearance bonus, regardless of performance.

I applaud MR for not treating Mr Filler as something special. Gives them a shit ton of credibility imo.
 
Interesting and opaque comments from Fedor on his own podcast. He expressed what I thought was just mild regret at missing the UK Open. Said he was bound by contract with Viking to go to the big Chinese trade show taking place at the same time. He implied the same was likely true of SVB and FRS attending on behalf of Cuetec.

He did not specify whether the date of the UK Open was announced before or after he was committed to the Chinese trade show. He did contend he had a "legal" reason not to go to the UK Open.

No surprise, Gorst expressed frustration with the lack of scheduling from both Matchroom and Predator. He seemed to think the lack of dates was partially a result of a final compromise by the WNT and WPA still not being announced.

He and his podcast partner questioned whether the Spanish Open and World Cup of Pool would happen. Frazer indicated last year that both would happen in 2025, though she was less committal about the WPC in a Doggin It podcast a few months ago.

Gorst also was irritated there is no date set yet for the World Pool Championship in Saudi Arabia. Last year it took place from June 3 to June 8 and I suspect a similar date is likely this year.

There's also the World Pool Masters. It's taken place from late March to late May in the past 6-7 years.

Matchroom and WNT are still young, but historically MR has tried not to sked big events when smaller WNT ranking events were taking place.

If that pattern held, MR has the following dates that involve a weekend still open:

May 30-31 weekend
Last three weeks of June
First four weeks of July
All of September
First two weeks of November.

August is pretty much booked.

The first two weeks of October are almost certainly the Peri and Hanoi opens.

Reyes would follow with a few weeks of that, with the Mosconi in the first week of December.

The International would be in Nov or Dec.
 
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One other thing: Gorst's health.

As I suspected, Gorst went to Russia because the cost of treatment in the U.S. would have been very high. About $30,000 for one procedure, and another $10,000 or $15,000 in stem-cell treatments afterward. Quite a bit for a person who has to self insure.

He saw a bunch of doctors in Russia for consultation and treatment. Going forward he needs to make his body stronger and do various exercises and stretching regularly to manage his problem.

Didn't appear that he had surgery in Russia based on what he described.
 
One other thing: Gorst's health.

As I suspected, Gorst went to Russia because the cost of treatment in the U.S. would have been very high. About $30,000 for one procedure, and another $10,000 or $15,000 in stem-cell treatments afterward. Quite a bit for a person who has to self insure.

He saw a bunch of doctors in Russia for consultation and treatment. Going forward he needs to make his body stronger and do various exercises and stretching regularly to manage his problem.

Didn't appear that he had surgery in Russia based on what he described.

it's an alternative treatment, i doubt there is evidence for it curing scoliosis. i read up a bit on various back treatments when i was bed ridden some months ago. i live in a different country but it's not within insurance here. i hope fedor finds good help and doesn't get his career cut short because of this
 
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