2025 Reyes Cup, Oct 16-19, Manilla. Team Asia vs Team World

sjm said:
Wow! Three jump-ins by Chua in one match. Absolutely brilliant.
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Chua has been at the top of his game during the Reyes. It's why I think he is the third best player in the world, and someone I would never bet against no matter who he is playing.

I do think Manas is better than you think. Biggest problem for him has been a lack of maturity at the table relative to some of the greats you saw at a young age. He's been a bit too nonchalant and far too aggressive at times - the bane of youth.
 
jbart65 said:
I have to question whether Filipinos actually do show up at big pool matches in large crowds. Maybe they did in the past, but now?

In any case, Matchroom could not foresee that everyone on Team ROW would get a case of the yips at the same time. I mean Fedor, with a shirt foul?

AJ Manas has now been part of five winning points. Chua has been the best player on Team Asia, but Manas might just end up winning MVP.
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Who has been the best and weakest player of Team RAWR?
 
jbart65 said:
Chua has been at the top of his game during the Reyes. It's why I think he is the third best player in the world, and someone I would never bet against no matter who he is playing.

I do think Manas is better than you think. Biggest problem for him has been a lack of maturity at the table relative to some of the greats you saw at a young age. He's been a bit too nonchalant and far too aggressive at times - the bane of youth.
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He definitely has a high amount of raw talent, hence the nonchalant attitude and fearlessness. If he takes his time and becomes more of a student of the game, he would be a killer with all that ability.
 
With that clarification in mind, I watched again. It does look like the shirt touches the ball. But still hard to tell with certainty from that camera angle. The ref was on the opposite side of the camera, so the shirt could have draped over the ball differently from that direction.
 
Kris_b1104 said:
And?

Jayson couldn't even get to the hill in his match with FSR yesterday.
Fedor has still played better than Shaw so far.
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And... Nothing really. Fedor made too many mistakes in a match that should have never gotten to hill hill. On paper it shouldn't even be close, Fedor should be stealing. The margins are just too thin between these players, you can't make any mistakes. They have to play the most boring pool on the planet and still might not be able to win.
 
Badpenguin said:
And... Nothing really. Fedor made too many mistakes in a match that should have never gotten to hill hill. On paper it shouldn't even be close, Fedor should be stealing. The margins are just too thin between these players, you can't make any mistakes. They have to play the most boring pool on the planet and still might not be able to win.
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Pressure makes a pipe burst.
 
Badpenguin said:
And... Nothing really. Fedor made too many mistakes in a match that should have never gotten to hill hill. On paper it shouldn't even be close, Fedor should be stealing. The margins are just too thin between these players, you can't make any mistakes. They have to play the most boring pool on the planet and still might not be able to win.
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I agree, Fedor should be stealing.

But I don't see how you have Shaw over him so far in this event. If you dissect the matches, you will see that Shaw has made far more mistakes than Fedor.
 
sjm said:
Emily's comment "he's definitely a future world champion" (need it even be said that in her eyes, the World 9ball is the only world championship) seems a bit ridiculous to me.

Forgive me, but I haven't seen anything yet from Manas that would cause me to concur. I recall at the 2017 Mosconi how Filler went undefeated, was the Mosconi MVP, and was the best player on either team. At that point, it would have been reasonable to predict the greatness that would be coming soon for Filler. I don't get anything near the same feeling here with Manas.

So, I will dissent and say that Manas does not look like a future world champion to me. That said, I'd be happy to be wrong on this, and wish him every possible success. I'd call him a young player with a lot of promise. I saw Strickland, Filler, Gorst, Hopkins and Pagulayan all play when they were teenagers. As teens, they were much further along than Manas is today relative to the pros of their respective days.
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Begs the question...who in his age group today do you consider a future world champion, if any?

Given the current crop of teenagers, I can think of only two others off the top of my head in AJ's class...Kledio Kaci and Albert Januarta. Moritz (21) and Bernie Reglario (20) aren't technically teenagers, but both can be regarded as in his age group. I don't find the claims that any of them can be regarded as future world champions too ridiculous, considering youth is on their side. I'm probably not taking Emily's phrase literally enough, and maybe I should.
 
Team ROW should be embarrassed. Should have taken at least two points today.

I didn't, and don't, like the ROW concept. What are players playing for? The world? Please. There's no solidarity in such an opaque concept. People are tribal.

MR should go back to Team Europe or Team USA. Whoever won the Mosconi the prior year.
 
jbart65 said:
Chua has been at the top of his game during the Reyes. It's why I think he is the third best player in the world, and someone I would never bet against no matter who he is playing.
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He's certainly not in the conversation with Fedor or Josh, and it can be argued that in 2025, neither Josh nor Fedor is in the conversation with Yapp. Those are the top three right now. Wonder who you'd bump to include Chua.

Let Chua win a world championship and a few more top tier majors before he's even in the conversation for best Asian player. Biado has three world championships, Ko Ping Chung has two world championships, and Ko Pin Yi has two world championships. Yapp won the US Open 9ball, the Florida Open and the UK Open this year. Chua's resume of significant titles is very thin.

I've got Chua as the fifth best Asian player right now.
 
Shaw looks terrible out there. Playing as if he doesn’t care. When it’s the Mosconi cup he’s full of confidence and free stroking, I guess when the heat is on he folds!
 
sjm said:
It was embarrassing enough when the team was announced. Team "Rest of the World" features nobody that has won a WNT event this year and three guys who have not even made it to Day 6 of a Matchroom major this year.
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I agree. It may have not made a difference, but when I saw that Shane,filler, Eklent Kaci, were left off the team, I knew they had ZERO chance of winning
 
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