3/8 x 14...why?

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Pocket Change

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I'm a returning/comeback player and I went shopping (brick & mortar) for a new decent cue to get back into the game. I was lead to the Cuetec Avid line. Priced right for an entry cue, especially with a linen wrap, my favorite grip. I went with it and no problems with the cue, it's way better than me at this point. As I'm looking at possible different shafts it seems that the 3/8 x 14 is rarely, if at all, available from anyone other than Cuetec. I haven't even seen a joint adapter for that size; I'm not sure I'd use one anyway.

Basically if I want to try a CF shaft it seems to be Cynergy or nothing.

The question: is there a mechanical, structural, or other reason for this seemingly unique size or is it just a marketing move to keep you in the Cuetec family? If so that's Ok, I understand, just wondering. I'm not even sure 3/8 x 14 is that rare.

Edit: I hope this is not posted in the wrong forum, if so please have it moved. -Ed
 
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Pocket Change said:
I'm a returning/comeback player and I went shopping (brick & mortar) for a new decent cue to get back into the game. I was lead to the Cuetec Avid line. Priced right for an entry cue, especially with a linen wrap, my favorite grip. I went with it and no problems with the cue, it's way better than me at this point. As I'm looking at possible different shafts it seems that the 3/8 x 14 is rarely, if at all, available from anyone other than Cuetec. I haven't even seen a joint adapter for that size; I'm not sure I'd use one anyway.

Basically if I want to try a CF shaft it seems to be Cynergy or nothing.

The question: is there a mechanical, structural, or other reason for this seemingly unique size or is it just a marketing move to keep you in the Cuetec family? If so that's Ok, I understand, just wondering. I'm not even sure 3/8 x 14 is that rare.

Edit: I hope this is not posted in the wrong forum, if so please have it moved. -Ed
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Bender uses 3/8 × 14. Not sure of other builders.
 
Both Bull Carbon shafts and Whyte carbon shafts have interchangeable joints. Check out at Seybert's.
 
Omega/DPK were 3/8-14 thus why Bender uses them, as he got started there.
Ernie Martinez could also be 3/8-14, IIRC, but maybe its 3/8-12.
 
An option to consider: it is possible to convert a shaft's threads to anything you want. It's a pretty simple job for a decent cuemaker. The joint pin can also be replaced, but will likely cost a little more.
 
Pocket Change said:
I'm a returning/comeback player and I went shopping (brick & mortar) for a new decent cue to get back into the game. I was lead to the Cuetec Avid line. Priced right for an entry cue, especially with a linen wrap, my favorite grip. I went with it and no problems with the cue, it's way better than me at this point. As I'm looking at possible different shafts it seems that the 3/8 x 14 is rarely, if at all, available from anyone other than Cuetec. I haven't even seen a joint adapter for that size; I'm not sure I'd use one anyway.

Basically if I want to try a CF shaft it seems to be Cynergy or nothing.

The question: is there a mechanical, structural, or other reason for this seemingly unique size or is it just a marketing move to keep you in the Cuetec family? If so that's Ok, I understand, just wondering. I'm not even sure 3/8 x 14 is that rare.

Edit: I hope this is not posted in the wrong forum, if so please have it moved. -Ed
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The cuetec pin isn't 3/8-14 at all. Sure it's 14TPI, but the pin is a fair bit smaller than a regular 3/8-14 screw. Why do Cuetec do this? The answer is not that exiting, a proprietary pin drives more business to your brand.
Having said that, it's not a problem threading a shaft for the Cuetec pin, you can easily buy an undersized 3/8-14 tap or even better live thread the threads.
 
Kim Bye said:
The cuetec pin isn't 3/8-14 at all. Sure it's 14TPI, but the pin is a fair bit smaller than a regular 3/8-14 screw. Why do Cuetec do this? The answer is not that exiting, a proprietary pin drives more business to your brand.
Having said that, it's not a problem threading a shaft for the Cuetec pin, you can easily buy an undersized 3/8-14 tap or even better live thread the threads.
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A propriety anything doesn't drive business to a company. It imprisons the users. I know plenty of people who hate Apple, but won't change because of the things they would have to replace.
 
I just mosey along. It's not that bad. I could put the minors but I don't want to spoil the fun.
 

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Pocket Change said:
I'm a returning/comeback player and I went shopping (brick & mortar) for a new decent cue to get back into the game. I was lead to the Cuetec Avid line. Priced right for an entry cue, especially with a linen wrap, my favorite grip. I went with it and no problems with the cue, it's way better than me at this point. As I'm looking at possible different shafts it seems that the 3/8 x 14 is rarely, if at all, available from anyone other than Cuetec. I haven't even seen a joint adapter for that size; I'm not sure I'd use one anyway.

Basically if I want to try a CF shaft it seems to be Cynergy or nothing.

The question: is there a mechanical, structural, or other reason for this seemingly unique size or is it just a marketing move to keep you in the Cuetec family? If so that's Ok, I understand, just wondering. I'm not even sure 3/8 x 14 is that rare.

Edit: I hope this is not posted in the wrong forum, if so please have it moved. -Ed
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Well in my opinion, if it's carbon fiber you are after, the Cynergy is about as good as it gets, and about as good as any shaft of any kind honestly,,,,,,,,,, in my opinion.
 
Kim Bye said:
The cuetec pin isn't 3/8-14 at all. Sure it's 14TPI, but the pin is a fair bit smaller than a regular 3/8-14 screw. Why do Cuetec do this? The answer is not that exiting, a proprietary pin drives more business to your brand.
Having said that, it's not a problem threading a shaft for the Cuetec pin, you can easily buy an undersized 3/8-14 tap or even better live thread the threads.
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Cuetec uses a 3/8 - 14 pin on their AVID line of cues
 
Kim Bye said:
With a true .316" minor?
The shafts I've done for Cuetec has been more in the .275" range, so quite far from the true spec. It's more like a 7.5mm pin, but with a 18TPI thread pitch.
Mr. Webb probably more information, he's the resident pin guru 😎
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It's brutal and a
PAIN IN THE ASS!
And all because I said,
If it's sloppy, it can't be good!
 
Wow, thanks for all the input. I had no idea how complex it can get.

I'm not really out a lot of $ relatively speaking, not knowing the current market is why I went that way (Cuetec). I also had no idea how much technology has changed in the last 20 or so years on a "tapered broomstick";), but I'm a retired IT engineer (HP/DEC) so in my real working life things never stood still.

I like the feel of the butt I have (Cuetec Avid series Sneaky Pete with LW), I did not know the points are painted:(. However, it fits my hand well and balances nice for me. I guess I'll go by one of the D/FW stores (Omega & Ft.W Billiards) next time we go to the big city and hit a little bit with a Cynergy, see how that feels. Seems to be the best option since I've already committed to the "Apple" marketing plan! Thanks DeeDee. Odd thing, after retiring from HP I went to Apple, mostly, for my home use.

I'm starting in an APA league next week, please no judgement here-it's all I got, & let's see where I match up with others before diving deeper. ...but; Oh there are some nice cues out there I'm just lusting over.

Maybe I should have gone the Pickle Ball route for retirement!!!:ROFLMAO:

Again, thanks for the info, it's well appreciated.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
A propriety anything doesn't drive business to a company. It imprisons the users. I know plenty of people who hate Apple, but won't change because of the things they would have to replace.
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Proprietary products drive the sheep to the shed where they are fleeced.
 
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