You need a new set of measuring tools! 17.75 mm shaft?
314-2 Shaft
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You need a new set of measuring tools! 17.75 mm shaft?
Exactly Kim, maybe a new shaft from what's that company called again?? Mezz?
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Yes that's a great idea :wink:
Seriously, any shaft constructed in a sound way will do.
The wall of the predator ferrule is so incredible thin and it's only held on by the bond of the epoxy. Breaking with Predator shafts, is asking for trouble!
You're right. 11.75. :sorry: 17.75 ounces is my cue weight. I'll go back and correct it.
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It's nice to see someone actually has an open mind about these kinds of things. I am pretty sure Predator has covered the bases on what works for what, I mean since we all have a lab and robotic testing in our garages, and pool rooms, and friends house, we would know better then they do right?
I know that at 12.25 mm which is the absolute threshold on those shafts, the ferrule is about as thin as a paper dollar. shame on them when you want to push it past its limits,
The TruShaft is an LD shaft, or at least that's what Samsara told me
I know that. I have a break stick also.
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So, what do you think of the TruShaft?
I actually really like it! The hit feels a lot more solid than the Predator. The Samsara tip on it is nice also. Glad I made the switch.
You might find this thread interesting....
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=411133
Very similar situation but with Longoni. I never break with my playing shafts, this was just on a draw shot.
They also tried to say the shaft was too thin in diameter, but upon further investigation, there was an error made at the shop-the tenon was too short for the ferrule. I did have the shaft taken down by a professional cue maker which apparently voids the warranty. Even though the cause of the problem had nothing to do with shaft diameter.
They never accepted blame but offered a replacement for half off.
I'm suprised Longoni let a short tenon slide, they are known for detail and quality. Did you have Heath handle this for you?
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Yes, Heath was the dealer rep and he was extremely disappointed in Longini's response as well as their glaring error in craftsmanship.
As always, Heath was stellar and went above and beyond to get a replacement OB shaft for me at a great discount while we waited on Longoni.
On a side note.....
Dan Dishaw was able to work his magic and save the broken shaft with a longer ferrule. It's a solid hit once again even though it has a Frankenstein ferrule on it. I have photos but photobucket is going nuts today so I'll have to update the original thread with photos later.
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Heaths success is a direct result of the way he treats his customers. The sky is the limit for that guy, I was one of his very first customers years ago and am lucky enough to consider him a friend.
So, they didn't offer a replacement because you modified the shaft? Do they not make a taper/diameter from factory to what you were looking for? I was sure they made a 12.25 mm..
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From the Samsara website:
True Shafts are the ground-breaking low deflection(squirt) performance shaft from Samsara. Seven years in the making with countless trials led us to re-invent the modern ferrule. This one piece hard maple shaft with plenty of magic inside will change your mind on what a blend of tradition and technology can offer in playing performance and consistancy.
Absolutely agree on Heath. I'm with that guy for life.
And get this, we requested the replacement at 12.20mm from them at the factory. Being Italian made there is a considerable wait. In the end they sent an S2 at 12.75mm. Oh well. I just did the same thing, took it to Dan, had it brought down to 12.2mm and see what happens. So far so good, I rotate between that and the OB classic.
It was as if they refused the 12.2 mm size- it was either the 11.80 S3 or the 12.80 S2.
So far the only company I know of that makes a stock 12.25 mm is cuetec.
I may be wrong and if so, I'd like to have names of others.
(Per heath, in dealing with OB, they would not take the classic down any more than 12.30mm and still keep the warranty. Dan had OB ferrules and measured them, showing the ferrule could be taken down to 12.2 and still have a good sidewall-so that's what we did. It's been most reliable for almost a year now)
Here are the photos to the cue repair from the details above....
The last photo shows the shaft is only a few centimeters shorter than the standard length. A new plug and tenon were installed as well. I was also amazed to learn of the hollow void in the Longoni shaft which had been advertised as a solid/non hollow low deflection shaft. Their patent on the site doesn't even show the hollow void. Hmmmmm.
The last photo shows the shaft is only a few centimeters shorter than the standard length. A new plug and tenon were installed as well. I was also amazed to learn of the hollow void in the Longoni shaft which had been advertised as a solid/non hollow low deflection shaft. Their patent on the site doesn't even show the hollow void. Hmmmmm.