4/5 rail systems

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im a pocket pool player.....:embarrassed2::embarrassed2:
but i use many diamond systems for kicking and banking:smile:
and once ran 4 3 cushion billiards in a row ...:embarrassed2:
using the corner 5 primarily
the only time i tried billiards
does anyone have a system for 4 or 5 rail shots??
pms ok if you dont want to share it publicly
thanks in advance for your help
larry (bbb)
 
Hi bbb,

There are many systems you can try. I would puruse the internet googling 4/5 rail billiard systems. Have fun.
 
zensteve said:
Hi bbb,

There are many systems you can try. I would puruse the internet googling 4/5 rail billiard systems. Have fun.
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are there any you could tell me about or lead me too?
ive searched
i know about going from the 3rd to 4th rail with the corner 5 system
im especially interested when you come off the end rail first but any info is appreciated
 
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NOONE HAS A 4 RAIL SYSTEM>>>>:eek:.......:embarrassed2:
YOU GUYS ARE PATHETIC
i cant believe you can play billiards and not have a 4 cushion as a starting Point system
 
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bbb...stop wasting your time plaing pool... Dont you feel bore of pocketing those balls again and again... Because man im telling you its as boring as hell..

For just five years of playing three cushion billiards, you'll gain a knowledge in billiards as much as a pro pool player learn in his entire career.
 
4-rail, 5-rail shots

bbb,

Yes, there are definitely 4-rail systems, however personally I don't have one and I stink at 4 rail shots going into the end rail (short rail) first. If that's what you are referring to, then there are others who have a system. I'll try to fins someone who can help. The only thing I know about that system is this: If you aim for the 1st diamond from the corner as in the diagrams (cue ball is white) with high maximum English, the cue ball returns to the diamond you are shooting from assuming that the table is playing "true". If it plays shorter, than you will see the difference and if it plays very slippery, you will see the difference and hopefully account for it.

Here are some basic banks and the cue ball paths. The two 3-rail shots I am showing you are my little secret shots that I love to pull off in a match.
 

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4-rail, 5-rail shots

I can't possible show you every combination of 5-rail shots, etc. I use the corner 5 system and memorize the cue ball paths.
 

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jimshovak
THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPLY......:thumbup:
i really appreciate your taking the time to post those diagrams
it gets me started
 
sightline said:
bbb...stop wasting your time plaing pool... Dont you feel bore of pocketing those balls again and again... Because man im telling you its as boring as hell..

For just five years of playing three cushion billiards, you'll gain a knowledge in billiards as much as a pro pool player learn in his entire career.
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would you care to share your 4 cushion shot knowledge....:rolleyes:
 
sightline said:
bbb...stop wasting your time plaing pool... Dont you feel bore of pocketing those balls again and again... Because man im telling you its as boring as hell..

For just five years of playing three cushion billiards, you'll gain a knowledge in billiards as much as a pro pool player learn in his entire career.
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VERY diplomatic reply! :rolleyes:

Bill Smith "Mr3Cushion"
 
bbb,

FYI, remember that all those paths change depending on the way that the table is playing at the time. Knowing what the balls are gonna do based on the playing condition is one of the keys to success. It takes time and experience.
 
Larry,

The only 4 rail system/guideline I know, other than extensions to 3 rail systems, is shooting into the end rail off a ball in the middle of the table with maximum english, when entering the end rail at a right angle (middle of the rail) it tends to go 4 rails around the table into the corner. Moving that 90 degree angle line up or down a diamond moves the corresponding hit point a similar amount if I remember correctly. These can serve as good guidelines for those end rail first 4-railers, and you can alter with hit and spin as needed.

For 5 rails, most common guideline is shooting corner to opposite diagonal corner, that tends to go 5 rails to the corner, depending on the table, with normal running english. You can match up the diamonds, so to speak, to achieve the same result. So from 1 diamond away on the end rail, you shoot into 1 diamond up from the corner. Middle to 2 diamonds up, and so on. Likewise, you can aim 1 diamond up or down from the normal position to come up slightly shorter or longer.

Hope this makes sense. Some of the more experienced guys on here may know more, but really as I think about it most of the systems I know are geared around 3 rail variations - running, dead ball, short, etc. - when shooting 4, 5, or more rails you just tend to extend the lines and learn where those are through experience.

Scott
 
scottjen26 said:
Larry,

The only 4 rail system/guideline I know, other than extensions to 3 rail systems, is shooting into the end rail off a ball in the middle of the table with maximum english, when entering the end rail at a right angle (middle of the rail) it tends to go 4 rails around the table into the corner. Moving that 90 degree angle line up or down a diamond moves the corresponding hit point a similar amount if I remember correctly. These can serve as good guidelines for those end rail first 4-railers, and you can alter with hit and spin as needed.

For 5 rails, most common guideline is shooting corner to opposite diagonal corner, that tends to go 5 rails to the corner, depending on the table, with normal running english. You can match up the diamonds, so to speak, to achieve the same result. So from 1 diamond away on the end rail, you shoot into 1 diamond up from the corner. Middle to 2 diamonds up, and so on. Likewise, you can aim 1 diamond up or down from the normal position to come up slightly shorter or longer.

Hope this makes sense. Some of the more experienced guys on here may know more, but really as I think about it most of the systems I know are geared around 3 rail variations - running, dead ball, short, etc. - when shooting 4, 5, or more rails you just tend to extend the lines and learn where those are through experience.

Scott
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scott send me your email and home address please
darrell paul martineau has a 4 rail system that doesnt seem to work on my POOL TABLE...:o
sorry guys im a pool player
my only 4 rail system i know has to do with 4 rail bank to the corner
long rail numbers are 1-8
short rail numbers are like the plus 2
3-5-7-
coming from long rail number to short raiIL NUMBER =8 WITH RUNNING ENGLISH GETS YOU 4 RAILS TO THE POCKET
what i want to know is going end rail/long rail/short rail /long rail
how do you get to long rail or the spot on short rail
 
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billiardshot said:
bbb this in Spanish but the diagram are simple to understand. Maybe it will help.


http://www.billarjuvenil.com.ar/bil...se_bonacho_palomares/j_b_palomares_sistem.pdf
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muchas gracias....:)
ive started looking thru it
on page 62 and 64 there are 2 sets of numbers on the bottom short rail??? i dont understand that??
thanks for the help
great resource
:thumbup:
edited to say
i figured out one set of numbers where the cue ball was coming from(salida...yes)
and the other set was the return number(llegada yes)
 
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i want to thank you all who have responded
those who have pm'ed me too
everything has been very helpfull
keep the info coming i appreciate it'
:thumbup:.....:smile:
 
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Dr. Cue Pool Lesson #76 - 4 Cushion Kick System (Standard Track):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QosF7hSyvl0


Dr. Cue Pool Lesson #77 - 5 Cushion Kick System (Standard 1-1):

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APA Dr. Cue Lesson #56 -- Diamond Systems (Table Terminology):

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