5 Consecutive Racks Of 9 Ball

JoeyA

JoeyA

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I was wondering if those of you who have run AT LEAST 5 consecutive racks of nine ball ON A 9 FOOT TABLE at any one time in your life, if you would mind sharing what type of shaft AND OTHER SPECS, you CURRENTLY play with:
1. The Brand Name:
2. The diameter of the shaft:
3. The Taper: (how many inches of straight taper or conical taper).
4. And the tip that you use:
5. AND how about the ferrule specs if any.

FTR,
1. Mike Bender standard maple shaft and cue.
2. 13MM sanded down over the years using micro paper green and yellow to 12.75mm.
3. It used to be a conical taper when it was new but have modified it since to a straight taper for the first 13 inches then cone shaped from there on.
4. Either LePro or Moori Medium.
5. Ivory

I am not trying to be snotty about who posts on this thread and am only trying to get a bench mark for the responders who have played at this level or above and to determine if I want to consider changing my equipment specifications in the future.

Thanks,
JoeyA
 
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Yes, Back then I played with a Richard Black- Black Baron, with his standard taper, whatever that is, ss piloted joint, LePro tip.

I've also done it with a Black Boar, Scruggs, and a Phillippe....see the common thread....I like "Maryland style cues"

For what it's worth, I also ran a 4 pack and out with my Cuetec Earl Strickland jump break cue when I lost my tip from my playing cue at a tournament....it had a water buffalo tip.

Gerry
Gerry
 
JoeyA said:
I was wondering if those of you who have run AT LEAST 5 consecutive racks of nine ball at any one time in your life, if you would mind sharing what type of shaft you play with:
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LOL!!!! I love this question, Joey, but what I shoot with today isn't the equipment I shot the 5 racks with. Are you asking about what are current specifications are and why we chose what we chose?

Fred

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1. Schuler or Gilbert
58"
19 oz.
18 1/2-18 3/4" balance point from the butt cap end

2. 12 3/4 mm diameter

3. Classic Pro Taper (slight growth in the first ~14), not the Meucci delayed taper (almost no growth in diameter for the first 12-14" .

4. Triangle tip w/pad

Fred
 
1. The Brand Name: Wayne Gunn
2. The diameter of the shaft: 13mm
3. The Taper: 10" pro taper
4. And the tip that you use:13mm lePro

1. The Brand Name: Adams
2. The diameter of the shaft: 13mm
3. The Taper: 10" pro taper
4. And the tip that you use:13mm LePro

1. The Brand Name: Rocky Tillis
2. The diameter of the shaft:12mm
3. The Taper: 10" pro taper
4. And the tip that you use: 12mm LePro

1. The Brand Name: Larue
2. The diameter of the shaft: 13mm
3. The Taper: 10" pro taper
4. And the tip that you use:13mm Lepro

:)
 
Joey

JoeyA said:
I was wondering if those of you who have run AT LEAST 5 consecutive racks of nine ball at any one time in your life, if you would mind sharing what type of shaft you play with:
1. The Brand Name:
2. The diameter of the shaft:
3. The Taper: (how many inches of straight taper or conical taper).
4. And the tip that you use:

FTR,
1. Mike Bender standard maple shaft and cue.
2. 13MM sanded down over the years using micro paper green and yellow to 12.75mm.
3. It used to be a conical taper when it was new but have modified it since to a straight taper for the first 13 inches then cone shaped from there on.
4. Either LePro or Moori Medium.

I am not trying to be snotty about who posts on this thread and am only trying to get a bench mark for the responders who have played at this level or above and to determine if I want to consider changing my equipment specifications in the future.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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Not trying to be ficititous or a braggard or anything, but I have run
5 packs and above with different cues over the years, and I really don't
see the relationship between equipment and running a 5 pack as long as
you are comfortable with what you are using. Do you think that if the poll was large enough, that 1 or 2 equipment combinations would glaringly
show up as being the equipment to use?

To make my point, Efren could probably run a 5 pack with 5,000 different
combinations of equipment.

Also, when your shaft went down to 12.75 mm, did you take the ferrule down too. (I hate sticks with a ferrule bigger than the shaft).
 
I havent had a five pack run since college(late 80s early 90s). I was using a Meucci Sneaky Pete during the time period. It had a pro taper, 12.75 mm and a Le Pro tip.

I had a few four packs this year. Gus S./12.75 /pro taper/le pro tip.
 
shaft: Paul Mottey shaft; Mottey cue.
taper: Taper adjusted ever so slightly by Paul Fanelli. Standard Fanelli taper (not sure what that is though. Sorry.)
diameter: 12.75 millimeters.
tip: Moori medium tip.
 
I use a Falcon cue, 12.75 mm (I think) with a cheap tip 5$ (because Im cheap and poor). Im not much of a equipment savant I just know that what I use works for me. But I will have to consider getting a more expensive tip eventually.

I agree with many of the people who have posted that the equipment doesnt really matter as long as your comfortable with it. I ran 4 pack with a house cue a few weeks ago. I also run out consecutive racks of 14.1 using warped house cues at my school. All that said Im not actually that good, so Im sure you or anyone else here is capable of that too.
 
Cameron Smith said:
I use a Falcon cue, 12.75 mm (I think) with a cheap tip 5$ (because Im cheap and poor). Im not much of a equipment savant I just know that what I use works for me. But I will have to consider getting a more expensive tip eventually.

I agree with many of the people who have posted that the equipment doesnt really matter as long as your comfortable with it. I ran 4 pack with a house cue a few weeks ago. I also run out consecutive racks of 14.1 using warped house cues at my school. All that said Im not actually that good, so Im sure you or anyone else here is capable of that too.
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No, I would call that pretty damn good if you ask me.

Koop - forever stuck on a 3-pack
 
pharaoh68 said:
shaft: Paul Mottey shaft; Mottey cue.
taper: Taper adjusted ever so slightly by Paul Fanelli. Standard Fanelli taper (not sure what that is though. Sorry.)
diameter: 12.75 millimeters.
tip: Moori medium tip.
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I think the most important thing to note hee is that I was breaking with a Dufferin house cue. Nothing special. No phenolic tip or anything like that. And I wasn't overpowering the cue ball and losing control of it. Just a solid break stroke, center ball, middle of the 1ball.

Just a head-string break about 6 inches off the rail. Running five racks comes down to one thing - the break. You spread the balls right and leave the cue ball mid table, it certainly makes life a lot easier.
 
pharaoh68 said:
Just a head-string break about 6 inches off the rail. Running five racks comes down to one thing - the break. You spread the balls right and leave the cue ball mid table, it certainly makes life a lot easier.
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You couldn't have said it better.
 
Tim Scruggs butt and shaft
13mm
don't know the taper(standard Scruggs taper if there is such a thing).......I just know it works for me
Moori medium
 
JoeyA said:
to determine if I want to consider changing my equipment specifications in the future.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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A-man,
Well, I ran 5 in a race to 5 tournament (8 foot Diamonds); but I made the 9 on the break once, and had at least 2 early combo's. If that counts then I have a Predator 314 shaft, 1 inch longer than standard, medium Moori tip. I have no idea of the diameter or taper; I've always used it, have no desire to fiddle with it.

While I'm sold on low deflection equipment; you might solicit JoeT's opinion on the matter - he's a better player, and has studied the issue as well.

You play well enough that I am wondering if you would really want to make any radical change in the equipment with which you achieved that level. Unless you are committed to practice, and have a good plan on how to re-learn squirt/throw/curve/deflection/spin, you might get frustrated with new equipment that has any substantial differences from your old equipment. I personally have strong feelings about low deflection equipment being ideal for beginners, but dang, YOU'RE NO BEGINNER!!!
 
CURRENTLY USING. Fred I figure that you may have gotten lucky when you ran the mulitiple racks and it could have been a long time ago but I would hope that you are more informed now and know what helps you play better pool overall. :-)

Cornerman said:
LOL!!!! I love this question, Joey, but what I shoot with today isn't the equipment I shot the 5 racks with. Are you asking about what are current specifications are and why we chose what we chose?

Fred

-------------------------------------------------------------

1. Schuler or Gilbert
58"
19 oz.
18 1/2-18 3/4" balance point from the butt cap end

2. 12 3/4 mm diameter

3. Classic Pro Taper (slight growth in the first ~14), not the Meucci delayed taper (almost no growth in diameter for the first 12-14" .

4. Triangle tip w/pad

Fred
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JoeyA said:
I was wondering if those of you who have run AT LEAST 5 consecutive racks of nine ball at any one time in your life, if you would mind sharing what type of shaft you play with:
1. The Brand Name:
2. The diameter of the shaft:
3. The Taper: (how many inches of straight taper or conical taper).
4. And the tip that you use:

FTR,
1. Mike Bender standard maple shaft and cue.
2. 13MM sanded down over the years using micro paper green and yellow to 12.75mm.
3. It used to be a conical taper when it was new but have modified it since to a straight taper for the first 13 inches then cone shaped from there on.
4. Either LePro or Moori Medium.

I am not trying to be snotty about who posts on this thread and am only trying to get a bench mark for the responders who have played at this level or above and to determine if I want to consider changing my equipment specifications in the future.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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1) Josey Custom Cue-was using Reeves Custom Cue when I ran the 5 pack
2) 13mm shaft
3) 15" pro taper
4) Sniper Tip

Mike
 
No Scott. I was just trying to establish a bench mark for skill level. I don't care what you ran the racks with. I actually only want to know what those players play with now. Sorry I didn't make the post more clear.

The shaft and ferrule had a slight hour glass shape to it but took the ferrule down when I changed the taper.

Now are you going to elaborate about the current cue's specs or what.
:-)
JoeyA

Snapshot9 said:
Not trying to be ficititous or a braggard or anything, but I have run
5 packs and above with different cues over the years, and I really don't
see the relationship between equipment and running a 5 pack as long as
you are comfortable with what you are using. Do you think that if the poll was large enough, that 1 or 2 equipment combinations would glaringly
show up as being the equipment to use?

To make my point, Efren could probably run a 5 pack with 5,000 different
combinations of equipment.

Also, when your shaft went down to 12.75 mm, did you take the ferrule down too. (I hate sticks with a ferrule bigger than the shaft).
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Is there someone who could clarify what is meant by the classic pro taper and precisely what is that small growth over the first 14". I am glad you mentioned this because this is one of the things I am very interested in.
Thanks,
JoeyA
 
Mike, does your pro taper on the first 15" increase even marginally?
Thanks,
JoeyA
 
1: Tim Scruggs standard shaft
2: Tip diameter roughly 12,5mm
3: Taper unknown, standard TS taper which might be just shorter than pro taper.
4: Moori S (slow)

Just barely qualified for this thread :rolleyes: :cool:
 
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