5 Consecutive Racks Of 9 Ball

Williebetmore said:
Fone-man,
I think you must have a loose connection. You do not seem to be getting the gist of this thread. NO ONE is claiming that they run fivers all of the time (other than me claiming satman is even money to do it on a bar table - and I only did that to try to get a better spot from him when we lock horns:) ).

Only a total newbie would think otherwise. Several posters have tried to correct you, I'll try one more time.

Here are the facts: there are a lot of great players on this board, there has been NO "macho BS" in this thread AT ALL (except perhaps for your snide assertions about everyone's honesty), everyone here who has contributed so far to this thread is probably spot-on accurate, and the regular posters here are SERIOUS AS A HEART ATTACK about pool . Deal with it ('cause at this point there are probably few people taking you very seriously).

P.S. - At this point I can safely say that you are not yet invited to the AZB room at next year's DCC. I hope you will adapt here over time so that we may yet enjoy the pleasure of your company.

P.P.S. - On a loosely related note, someone has suggested that we have an official AZB Room "Room Goon" at next year's DCC (and we have had actual volunteers) to deal with misbehavior. I'm strongly hoping that isn't necessary.:) :)
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A room goon bouncer, you hired smorgie.
Adapt, you mean begin kissing your ring and cow tow down to you? Avert my eyes and prostrate my self when you fantasy dreamer 5 pack run out champions walk by. I'll be happy to come into that room and allow any one to break and try to run 5 racks in a row. $20 bet, I'll make it affordable for you all and if you do it, I'll pay the bet off 10 to 1. You get $200.
You if you fail, you can try again for another $20 bet. You can try all day long, all week long, over and over. I would bet, not one of you do it. Now tell me you will now not let the fone man in the room with his money and bet? I’ll sleep in silk sheets and drink dom like it’s water that week on all of you dreamers.

I am still waiting for one person on this board to come in and admit he has not run 5 or more racks. I have never seen so many fantasy players, run out players in their minds. This is what happens on the internet, you create who you fantasize to be. It's a Walter Mitty thing.

Now you jump bad on me to defend your honor, what a hoot that one is dude. All I was trying to do was ***** slap you guys back into some form of reality here. Excuse me, not trying to start some friggen war, so I’ll back off and allow you all to continue telling each other how great you are. Sorry I rained on your parade.

Fone man
 
yrraltsafone said:
Sorry I rained on your parade.

Fone man
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Fone-man,
You didn't rain on our parade. You missed the parade completely.

No one on the planet is going to bet they can run a fiver, no one here said they would, the thread is not even about that (except perhaps in your own mind). Perhaps you have just misread the thread. Please return to the thread when you've run your 5-pack so you can contribute something of value.

P.S. - Kowtowing is always encouraged, but polite discussion is applauded.
 
JoeyA said:
I was wondering if those of you who have run AT LEAST 5 consecutive racks of nine ball ON A 9 FOOT TABLE at any one time in your life, if you would mind sharing what type of shaft AND OTHER SPECS, you CURRENTLY play with:
1. The Brand Name:
2. The diameter of the shaft:
3. The Taper: (how many inches of straight taper or conical taper).
4. And the tip that you use:
5. AND how about the ferrule specs if any.

FTR,
1. Mike Bender standard maple shaft and cue.
2. 13MM sanded down over the years using micro paper green and yellow to 12.75mm.
3. It used to be a conical taper when it was new but have modified it since to a straight taper for the first 13 inches then cone shaped from there on.
4. Either LePro or Moori Medium.
5. Ivory

I am not trying to be snotty about who posts on this thread and am only trying to get a bench mark for the responders who have played at this level or above and to determine if I want to consider changing my equipment specifications in the future.

Thanks,
JoeyA
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I have run five racks several times in my life. The worst one was when I was gambling - if you can call it that - with Ronnie Wiseman and I put a five pack on him to start the race to 11 and he beat me 11:5.

I have no idea what cue I was using then nor the specs. I stopped messing with those details years ago. I just get a cue I like and tweak it till I am comfortable. I have seen so many top players with so many different configurations that I can safely say that there is no magic combination that fits all. When you are putting balls in the hole then you found it. What works today for you may not work tomorrow.

John
 
yrraltsafone said:
THAT IS A GREAT OBSERVATION AND VERY FUNNY. Everyone wants to be in and cool. Its amazing what you can get by with on the internet when nobody can check up on you. The entire board has ran 10 racks.

I would guess unless you are a super strong apa 7 you have never ran 5.
I would also guess less than 1% of this board, or any player in pool has done this. 5 racks of 8 or 9 ball is rare, pro level performance. When you run 5, its time to pack the car and leave Oklahoma for NYC and get down with the big boys. 3 racks is stronger than whale poop.
Its called the fish grows, the more you tell the story, the more racks you ran. The bigger the fish grows. :)
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What it means is that you don't know the relative strength of pool players. If you were to run one five pack out of a year's worth of playing and you decided to jump in the car and mix it up with the "big boys" then they would bust you before you got off the block.

Any halfway decent player can run five racks occassionally when things go right. Doing it consistently is a lot harder. By the way, the NYC boys can come to Tulsa, OK and GET ALL THEY WANT at anytime of the day and night. So, not only are you uninformed about the myriad levels of pool strength, your attempt at a geographic gaff is woefully inadequate as well.

If you think that running three racks is "stronger than whale poop" you need to get some real world experience. I run three racks quite often and I am looking for a backer. Will you take me on the road to NYC? We could stop and bust Oklahoma on the way :-)

John
 
yrraltsafone said:
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A room goon bouncer, you hired smorgie.
Adapt, you mean begin kissing your ring and cow tow down to you? Avert my eyes and prostrate my self when you fantasy dreamer 5 pack run out champions walk by. I'll be happy to come into that room and allow any one to break and try to run 5 racks in a row. $20 bet, I'll make it affordable for you all and if you do it, I'll pay the bet off 10 to 1. You get $200.
You if you fail, you can try again for another $20 bet. You can try all day long, all week long, over and over. I would bet, not one of you do it. Now tell me you will now not let the fone man in the room with his money and bet? I’ll sleep in silk sheets and drink dom like it’s water that week on all of you dreamers.

I am still waiting for one person on this board to come in and admit he has not run 5 or more racks. I have never seen so many fantasy players, run out players in their minds. This is what happens on the internet, you create who you fantasize to be. It's a Walter Mitty thing.

Now you jump bad on me to defend your honor, what a hoot that one is dude. All I was trying to do was ***** slap you guys back into some form of reality here. Excuse me, not trying to start some friggen war, so I’ll back off and allow you all to continue telling each other how great you are. Sorry I rained on your parade.

Fone man
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I will take your bet. I get to pick a player from this thread who claims they run five racks. I won't pick anyone ranked in the top 20 of the UPA. I will put up 25 attempts at a five pack. That's $500. You put up five thousand and we let the player go at it. 25 attemtps and you pay off every time they run five racks.

Where do you want to do this. I will be in Valley Forge at the Super Billiards expo in March, the BCA and VNEA tournaments in May. The APA Nationals in August, probably the IPT in June. I am in Charlotte right now.

Just let me know.

John
 
yrraltsafone said:
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Then lets do exactly that, at next years DCC, I come into the room and bet any poster on the board they can't break and run 5 racks, and cover any bet, any amount, ten to one. So many rail birds play great in their minds on their computers. Behind our desks typing away, we are all run out players aren't we? I never missed a shot, behind my computer. All you 5 pack runners come get me and clean my butt out. Try and back this macho BS with some serious cash, and reality checks in hard.

Fone man I work for Sprint in KCMO, they call me the Kc Kid.
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Hey Fone Man. Bring ALL THE CASH you can muster to DCC next year - I mean ALL of it and you will get stone cold busted at this bet. In case you missed it there are bonafide champions who post here as well as a whole lot of champions-in-training on down to the nearly shortstops that rise up to championship level once in a while. Screw that - give me an amount you can cover that makes it worthwhile and I will come to KC and take your challenge. How MUCH money can you bring to back up your ignorant BS??????

I suspect you are the proverbial NIT, both behind the keyboard and in the poolroom. You should go to Shooter's in Olathe instead of Chuck E Cheese to get some real pool experience.

John
 
onepocketchump said:
What it means is that you don't know the relative strength of pool players. If you were to run one five pack out of a year's worth of playing and you decided to jump in the car and mix it up with the "big boys" then they would bust you before you got off the block.

Any halfway decent player can run five racks occassionally when things go right. Doing it consistently is a lot harder. By the way, the NYC boys can come to Tulsa, OK and GET ALL THEY WANT at anytime of the day and night. So, not only are you uninformed about the myriad levels of pool strength, your attempt at a geographic gaff is woefully inadequate as well.

If you think that running three racks is "stronger than whale poop" you need to get some real world experience. I run three racks quite often and I am looking for a backer. Will you take me on the road to NYC? We could stop and bust Oklahoma on the way :-)

John
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J,
Tap, tap, tap.

This only further reinforces the inadequacy of 9-ball as a test of proficiency. A five pack might be a once in lifetime event for the banger, or an everyday occurrence for the bartable monsters (like satman). I would never make an assumption about someone's skill level after such an accomplishment.

P.S. - How did you feel after getting Ronnie W. down 5-0???? I once had an accomplished pro down 4-0 in a race to 5; felt like I was "king of the world", then they ran a 4 pack on me, only missing the 7 ball in the last rack to allow me to close out the set. I was sweating bullets by the end.

As Luther Lassiter says in his book, "this game is tough as a cob."
 
onepocketchump said:
Hey Fone Man. Bring ALL THE CASH you can muster to DCC next year - I mean ALL of it and you will get stone cold busted at this bet. In case you missed it there are bonafide champions who post here as well as a whole lot of champions-in-training on down to the nearly shortstops that rise up to championship level once in a while. Screw that - give me an amount you can cover that makes it worthwhile and I will come to KC and take your challenge. How MUCH money can you bring to back up your ignorant BS??????

I suspect you are the proverbial NIT, both behind the keyboard and in the poolroom. You should go to Shooter's in Olathe instead of Chuck E Cheese to get some real pool experience.

John
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John,

Me thinketh this guy stinketh. Smells like the return of Larry Grindinger/Guninger.


Eric
 
onepocketchump said:
I will take your bet. I get to pick a player from this thread who claims they run five racks. I won't pick anyone ranked in the top 20 of the UPA. I will put up 25 attempts at a five pack. That's $500. You put up five thousand and we let the player go at it. 25 attemtps and you pay off every time they run five racks.

Where do you want to do this. I will be in Valley Forge at the Super Billiards expo in March, the BCA and VNEA tournaments in May. The APA Nationals in August, probably the IPT in June. I am in Charlotte right now.

Just let me know.

John
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Sorrry John, I won't be at either event, but you can come to Kcmo and look me up. We can bet it up there, no problem.

Fone man
 
onepocketchump said:
Hey Fone Man. Bring ALL THE CASH you can muster to DCC next year - I mean ALL of it and you will get stone cold busted at this bet. In case you missed it there are bonafide champions who post here as well as a whole lot of champions-in-training on down to the nearly shortstops that rise up to championship level once in a while. Screw that - give me an amount you can cover that makes it worthwhile and I will come to KC and take your challenge. How MUCH money can you bring to back up your ignorant BS??????

I suspect you are the proverbial NIT, both behind the keyboard and in the poolroom. You should go to Shooter's in Olathe instead of Chuck E Cheese to get some real pool experience.

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DCC, you come to kc, it don't matter, I have the dime, if you have the time. I love playing any one who has a handle ending in chump, chump...:D
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Williebetmore said:
J,
Tap, tap, tap.

This only further reinforces the inadequacy of 9-ball as a test of proficiency. A five pack might be a once in lifetime event for the banger, or an everyday occurrence for the bartable monsters (like satman). I would never make an assumption about someone's skill level after such an accomplishment.

P.S. - How did you feel after getting Ronnie W. down 5-0???? I once had an accomplished pro down 4-0 in a race to 5; felt like I was "king of the world", then they ran a 4 pack on me, only missing the 7 ball in the last rack to allow me to close out the set. I was sweating bullets by the end.

As Luther Lassiter says in his book, "this game is tough as a cob."
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I felt like I didn't belong there and was wondering when it would end. I looked up at the railbirds and knew I was killing all my action. I was quite suprised that I was able to hold it together. I didn't drop anything on the sixth rack and the next time I had a decent shot the score was 9:5 for Ronnie. I had a three foot eight ball shot to go to 9:6 and I shot it into the rubber a diamond away from the pocket.

John

One of the best ones I can remenber watching is when I was in Germany and Ron Gisel was waiting on his opponent. His opponent was a good italian whose name escapes me at the moment. Ron had been warming up for a little while. So when the opponent showed up they had to play immediately. Race to five. Ron gets the break and puts a four pack down. He breaks dry in the 5th rack and the italian guy runs the set out.

:-)

John
 
Eric. said:
John,

Me thinketh this guy stinketh. Smells like the return of Larry Grindinger/Guninger.


Eric
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Ah Eric, just because you chickened out and would not take my minimum bet to play a set on Big Bertha in KC for a measly C note, cluck cluck, no need to be calling me names calling me stinky. Bad little boy. Come see me when you raise the C note and you will find out, it is not Larry waiting for you. Hew haw is your game, not mine. :D

Fone man
 
Smorgass Bored said:
Eric. said:
John,
Me thinketh this guy stinketh. Smells like the return of Larry Grindinger/Guninger.
Eric


I just clicked on his name in this thread and looked at All Posts By This User and I am also convinced that this is FL. No doubt about it.
Doug
(you can never find a Moderator when you need one)
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Oh for crying out loud man, you could not find a rat on a stick in a Chinese buffett with out help? All that moo goo guy pen has rotted your brain. :D
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yrraltsafone said:
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Ah Eric, just because you chickened out and would not take my minimum bet to play a set on Big Bertha in KC for a measly C note, cluck cluck, no need to be calling me names calling me stinky. Bad little boy. Come see me when you raise the C note and you will find out, it is not Larry waiting for you. Hew haw is your game, not mine. :D

Fone man
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Can your backwards poster name be any more obvious. ;)
 
yrraltsafone said:
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Lies lies lies, its all a pinco commie plot to confuse you.

Fone man :D
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There are no commie plots, Bong Soon. Thanks for the PM. :rolleyes:
 
straybullet said:
There are no commie plots, Bong Soon. Thanks for the PM. :rolleyes:
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Here is a news flash for you. China is a commie regime, its called Red china. You are Chinese, you are a slant eyed James Bond, a Chinese secret agent planted here to confuse us. 00666. First you fluoridated our water and destroyed our purity of essence, POE, now your corrupting our youth by taking over Mickey Mouse. Here you are confusing the pool players with your miss direction. It's all a plot to take over the good ole USA from within. Who is gong soon, is that one of your agents, you always runs in pairs, to cover each others back.

Lies lies, all pinco commie lies. Do not listen to this woman. She is a furly dangerous person. Her finger is on the trigger of her can of mace on her belt at all times.:D

Fone man
 
Andrew Manning said:
I smell another banning coming up... everyone get your shots in quick while he's still here :rolleyes:

-Andrew
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Adrew, do I bend over and grab my ankles, will you give me a reach around? Lighten up dudes. :eek:

Fone man :D
 
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