7-out....straighten me out

12310bch

12310bch

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When a player gives you 7-out does he mean:

(1) The 7,8 and 9 are all wild money balls and can be made anytime during the game thru combination or other means as long as the object ball in rotation was contacted first

or

(2) Only the 9 is a wild money ball as described in (1). The 7 or 8 must be made in rotation to be a winner. In other words, if you make the 6 then the 7 becomes your money ball. If you make the 6 and the 7 has been previously been pocketed out of rotation by some means then the 8 becomes your money ball.
 
12310bch said:
When a player gives you 7-out does he mean:

(1) The 7,8 and 9 are all wild money balls and can be made anytime during the game thru combination or other means as long as the object ball in rotation was contacted first

or

(2) Only the 9 is a wild money ball as described in (1). The 7 or 8 must be made in rotation to be a winner. In other words, if you make the 6 then the 7 becomes your money ball. If you make the 6 and the 7 has been previously been pocketed out of rotation by some means then the 8 becomes your money ball.
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#1 for the win
 
In my mind if opponent gives you 7 out, you need to clarify what it means before you start playing. There are many interpretations.

"wild 7 out" usually means if 7,8 or 9 is made by you in any circumstance where you got a legal hit, it is a win. You need to be sure what happens if you make one of them on the break.

Just "7 out" many times means in rotation.

Clarify before you start!! Will save a lot of arguments later.
 
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12310bch said:
When a player gives you 7-out does he mean:

(1) The 7,8 and 9 are all wild money balls and can be made anytime during the game thru combination or other means as long as the object ball in rotation was contacted first

or

(2) Only the 9 is a wild money ball as described in (1). The 7 or 8 must be made in rotation to be a winner. In other words, if you make the 6 then the 7 becomes your money ball. If you make the 6 and the 7 has been previously been pocketed out of rotation by some means then the 8 becomes your money ball.
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7 and out would be called 7 and 8. Wild 7 and out, no calling needed. "Last three" would be calling and making any of the last 3 balls left on the table.
 
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As being said , it needs to be clarified up front.

Generally if I say , I'll give you the "7" it means you have to run in rotation down to the 7 or after based on whats left.

If it's the "7 wild" then usually its anything after the 6 is a money ball.

But there are endless variations and 'terms' depending on who you talk to.
 
12310bch said:
When a player gives you 7-out does he mean:

(1) The 7,8 and 9 are all wild money balls and can be made anytime during the game thru combination or other means as long as the object ball in rotation was contacted first

or

(2) Only the 9 is a wild money ball as described in (1). The 7 or 8 must be made in rotation to be a winner. In other words, if you make the 6 then the 7 becomes your money ball. If you make the 6 and the 7 has been previously been pocketed out of rotation by some means then the 8 becomes your money ball.
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As you can tell by the responses to your question, There are different different ways to interpret the spot. To me, if I offer you the 7 out, it means that you will win by making the 7,8 or 9 at any time on a legal shot. Get things clear before you start just to be safe.
 
Geez, only in POOL can rules be so f*cked-up :sorry:.

From bar rules in the biggest sh*thole of a dive in the deepest neck-of-some-woods, to the World Standardized Rules there must be THOUSANDS of variations to playing one simple game of _________(insert game here).

When will it all end?????? :grin::grin::grin:

Maniac
 
communication

I agree that it has to be spelled out. I was hoping for a definitive,
chiseled in stone, engraved in stainless steel , written in the Bible and the Koran definition so I would have to communicate as little as possible with
the pigeon I am about to fleece.:grin:

Seriously though folks, last three out in rotation is not that much weight, while 7,8,and nine wild is a pretty stiff spot. I have asked for the 7-out and been declared a maniacal lock artist and then was unable to further negotiate.

Everybody seems to be in agreement here by saying ," Get it straight before you break." Thanks all.
 
Slight thread diversion -- has pool's social nature changed these days?

12310bch said:
I agree that it has to be spelled out. I was hoping for a definitive,
chiseled in stone, engraved in stainless steel , written in the Bible and the Koran definition so I would have to communicate as little as possible with
the pigeon I am about to fleece.:grin:

Seriously though folks, last three out in rotation is not that much weight, while 7,8,and nine wild is a pretty stiff spot. I have asked for the 7-out and been declared a maniacal lock artist and then was unable to further negotiate.

Everybody seems to be in agreement here by saying ," Get it straight before you break." Thanks all.
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While I see the smiley placed there, I *have* to ask the following question. Pool is (or was?) a social sport/activity.

But yet, we have this "selective opportunism" when it comes to playing the sport with a bit of gamble -- "I want your money, damn it, and I couldn't care less about you as a person. I don't want to talk to you, I don't want to know you, all I want to do is take the contents of your wallet, throw your empty wallet back at you into your face, and send you on your way with my size 9 up your rear."

And we wonder why pool has the image it does?

Me personally? When I gamble, I like to socialize -- I like to get to know the person I'm playing, and try to make the person leave with a smile on his/her face. "Ya know? That Sean guy was a really nice guy. I lost against him, but I had fun doing it. I'd do it again in a heartbeat!"

That's the kind of action you want -- return "customers." And return customers with good references for even more action.

Am I an extinct dinosaur from a bygone pool era or something?
-Sean
 
Bambu said:
7 and out would be called 7 and 8. Wild 7 and out, no calling needed. "Last three" would be calling and making any of the last 3 balls left on the table.
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I've been playing pool for God knows how long, and this is how I've always understood "7 out" to be, a called spot.
 
To me, thats pretty much set in stone. Unless I hear the word wild, the ball has to be called. Unless I hear "and out" its just a 1 ball spot.

The real confusion starts when the spot balls go in on the break, and whether or not to spot them up. Thats the most important thing that should be clarified before starting. Naturally, if all balls stay down its alot easier on the guy giving the weight. I have seen a few versions, but usually both players are allowed to break and run before the spot balls come up.
 
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Maniac said:
Nope. There are plenty on this forum just like you, they just have quieter keyboards :wink:!!!

Maniac
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Hmm... I have one of those "soft touch" keyboards that don't make that annoying "clickety clickety" sound. There are actually quieter models available?!? Where do I find one? :p

Thanks for the laugh! :thumbup2:
-Sean
 
lighten up ,sfleinen

Of course a smiley face. Whoever heard of anybody fleecing a pigeon. Don't they have feathers or something? my God ,man. If I wanted to be social with somebody the last thing I'd do is try to hustle him out of his money. And as for your ,"Selective opportunism," WTF is that? I guarantee that if I'm going to be an opportunist I will damn well be selective. I don't know if it's the redundancy that makes me laugh or your invention of some pseudo-
intellectual, psycho-babble phrase to support your premise. La,la,la oh! for sure ,pool is a social sport what fun,what fun. I can see you walking up to a condemned man,tied to a post , blind fold on and when he ask for a last cigarette you say,"Which would you like , regular or menthol," After all, we should be social.

This, of course is just another man's opinion and is only meant to be taken as such.:hug: By the way,my shoe size is -13-.
 
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12310bch said:
When a player gives you 7-out does he mean:

(1) The 7,8 and 9 are all wild money balls and can be made anytime during the game thru combination or other means as long as the object ball in rotation was contacted first

or

(2) Only the 9 is a wild money ball as described in (1). The 7 or 8 must be made in rotation to be a winner. In other words, if you make the 6 then the 7 becomes your money ball. If you make the 6 and the 7 has been previously been pocketed out of rotation by some means then the 8 becomes your money ball.
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Back when I shot 4-5 days a week. If I gave up a spot say the 7 out. I would have the 7 and 8 to be called and the 9 wild. If one fell of the break then it's down and not a win unless it was the 9. The 7 and 8 would be placed right behind the 1 ball so there harder to sink so chanced are they would still be on the table after the break.

I don't like giving spots like 7 out. Just like i don't like taking them. I would rather shoot a race to 7 and give them two or 3 games on the wire.
 
this means its time to throw a party...if you get the 7 out then you proceed to bet your house and everything else you have...if you can't win then you need to find a new hobby.
 
7-out, 6-out, 5-out no matter which side of the game i have been on over the years means they are all wild on the break and in the game. whereas you'd specify them being called by saying it as the "called 7-out"! But i aguess it matters who and where you are playing!

jeremy
 
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