73 tables and a waiting list

kling&allen

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Tyler Styer did a great walk through of some of these halls on his Facebook page;

 

Cue Alchemist

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Thanks for posting these. It looks like, thats the future of pool. With that many tables, and ton of clubs. Interesting what fador said, thay don't drink when thay play, compared to other cultures. Its all the about the pool.
 

Brandon79ta

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Thanks for posting these. It looks like, thats the future of pool. With that many tables, and ton of clubs. Interesting what fador said, thay don't drink when thay play, compared to other cultures. Its all the about the pool.
No drunks stumbling around knocking your stuff over? No idiots barking and acting like they are big shit? I'd guess that would mean no thieves stealing your stuff while you take a piss either? Man I miss those days. Asia as a whole sounds better and better the more I learn about it.
 

jay helfert

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Ten years ago I was in China (both Guangzhou and Bejing) and went into several rooms with 50+ tables and there was a waiting list! I couldn't really believe what I was seeing, aware that someone must be making some good money here. A couple of the rooms were adjoined by giant arcades with maybe 100 machines, some of them high-tech types that were not in the States at that time. They also had a table tennis arena with 30-40 tables, and a golf driving range outside! All I could think was, What a business!!

Oh, plus a bar and restaurant! Ching, ching, ching! People were getting rich in China, and I also saw Cadillac, Ferrari and Rolls Royce showrooms. That was all in a wealthy neighborhood in Guangzhou. I do know that the business owners paid very high taxes to the Communist government in order to be allowed to stay open. That was thoroughly explained to me by my Chinese companion, a successful business woman as well. She took me to a street lined with high end stores, like a Rodeo Dr. in China. I saw a squad of government troops going from business to business, stopping at each one, with the squad leaders entering for fifteen minutes or so. She told me the government was collecting their taxes, and they do it once a week.

The owners of businesses like this and the multiple giant factories I saw all over may be some of the guys who were visiting Macau and gambling for six and even seven figures. China finally put a stop to that in Macau, making them spend their money elsewhere. All of sudden large new Vegas style casinos began opening in the Philippines. These opened in the last six or seven years. Of course, Chinese businessman control much of the industry in the Philippines already. China wins their wars with money! Money loaned creates indebtedness, and the Philippines as a whole is deep in debt to China.

What's happening in the South China Sea is another story. China has decided that small ocean belongs solely to them, and the small Asian countries that border the Sea can't do much to stop them. China is squeezing them all out of their fishing rights there, a huge industry for these countries. But that's a world away and we are concerned about Pool here.
 

mdavis228

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Helluva perspective, Jay… and a really important one to keep clear on. Especially in our country today.
 

skogstokig

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Ten years ago I was in China (both Guangzhou and Bejing) and went into several rooms with 50+ tables and there was a waiting list! I couldn't really believe what I was seeing, aware that someone must be making some good money here. A couple of the rooms were adjoined by giant arcades with maybe 100 machines, some of them high-tech types that were not in the States at that time. They also had a table tennis arena with 30-40 tables, and a golf driving range outside! All I could think was, What a business!!

Oh, plus a bar and restaurant! Ching, ching, ching! People were getting rich in China, and I also saw Cadillac, Ferrari and Rolls Royce showrooms. That was all in a wealthy neighborhood in Guangzhou. I do know that the business owners paid very high taxes to the Communist government in order to be allowed to stay open. That was thoroughly explained to me by my Chinese companion, a successful business woman as well. She took me to a street lined with high end stores, like a Rodeo Dr. in China. I saw a squad of government troops going from business to business, stopping at each one, with the squad leaders entering for fifteen minutes or so. She told me the government was collecting their taxes, and they do it once a week.

The owners of businesses like this and the multiple giant factories I saw all over may be some of the guys who were visiting Macau and gambling for six and even seven figures. China finally put a stop to that in Macau, making them spend their money elsewhere. All of sudden large new Vegas style casinos began opening in the Philippines. These opened in the last six or seven years. Of course, Chinese businessman control much of the industry in the Philippines already. China wins their wars with money! Money loaned creates indebtedness, and the Philippines as a whole is deep in debt to China.

What's happening in the South China Sea is another story. China has decided that small ocean belongs solely to them, and the small Asian countries that border the Sea can't do much to stop them. China is squeezing them all out of their fishing rights there, a huge industry for these countries. But that's a world away and we are concerned about Pool here.

always appreciate your insights jay. what are your thoughts on staging a manila open similar to the hanoi open? any big obstacles for that to happen?
 

Black-Balled

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No drunks stumbling around knocking your stuff over? No idiots barking and acting like they are big shit? I'd guess that would mean no thieves stealing your stuff while you take a piss either? Man I miss those days. Asia as a whole sounds better and better the more I learn about it.
It is definitely cool but I bet the lack of familiar letters would really get to you after a while!

The USA could learn a lot about coexisting with a lot of others, from Asia
 

jay helfert

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always appreciate your insights jay. what are your thoughts on staging a manila open similar to the hanoi open? any big obstacles for that to happen?
It will take the right team to put such a big event together. Only a couple of months ago They had the Sharks International 9-Ball with a 100K purse. Ko Pin Chung won it and the 30K first prize. That was in Quezon City, part of greater Manila. It was part of the Asian 9-Ball Tour created by Matchroom, and ranking points were given to the winning players.

In years past there were some very big tournaments held there, including World Championships for men and for women. I worked on some of them, either as a TD or commentator. Manny Paquiao is sponsoring a big event in December with a 130K purse, 40K on top to the winner! That's down south in General Santos City (they call it Gensan).
 
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skogstokig

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Maybe lack of competition is what makes the room so successful? I wonder how many other rooms/tables are near enough to matter.

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idk but the players and commentators referenced the multitude of pool rooms in hanoi during the event, so i doubt there's a lack of competition. but it may be the best / most popular room.
 
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