8.1 continuous. "9ball straight pool" suggestions?

christopheradam

Christopher Adams
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Is there a game called 8.1 continuous where you play straight pool with a 9ball rack? I think straight pool is such a great game and wish it was more popular(TV, local and larger tournaments). I tried playing straight pool with a 9ball rack and hit the balls in rotation. Kinda hard to get a break ball though. Anyone ever thought of playing this game but without hitting balls in rotation? How about if you hit them in rotation you get the value of the ball you hit in, and if you hit them out of rotation, you get one point for that ball. This might enable getting a key ball and a break shot easier. Another option is to just forget the rotation part. Any ideas, suggestions, comments about this?
Or any other games that are similair to this. I haven't tried lineup straight pool yet, someday I'll get the info on the rules and try it out.
 
christopheradam said:
Is there a game called 8.1 continuous where you play straight pool with a 9ball rack? I think straight pool is such a great game and wish it was more popular(TV, local and larger tournaments). I tried playing straight pool with a 9ball rack and hit the balls in rotation. Kinda hard to get a break ball though. Anyone ever thought of playing this game but without hitting balls in rotation? How about if you hit them in rotation you get the value of the ball you hit in, and if you hit them out of rotation, you get one point for that ball. This might enable getting a key ball and a break shot easier. Another option is to just forget the rotation part. Any ideas, suggestions, comments about this?
Or any other games that are similair to this. I haven't tried lineup straight pool yet, someday I'll get the info on the rules and try it out.


someone's got alot of time on their hands today.......... :D

VAP
 
vapoolplayer said:
someone's got alot of time on their hands today.......... :D

VAP

Just waiting for my post office to open so I can go see if My BD mag came in yet. Then I'm gonna hit the table and then get some sleep. Opens now so see you later.
 
christopheradam said:
Is there a game called 8.1 continuous where you play straight pool with a 9ball rack? I think straight pool is such a great game and wish it was more popular(TV, local and larger tournaments). I tried playing straight pool with a 9ball rack and hit the balls in rotation. Kinda hard to get a break ball though. Anyone ever thought of playing this game but without hitting balls in rotation? How about if you hit them in rotation you get the value of the ball you hit in, and if you hit them out of rotation, you get one point for that ball. This might enable getting a key ball and a break shot easier. Another option is to just forget the rotation part. Any ideas, suggestions, comments about this?
Or any other games that are similair to this. I haven't tried lineup straight pool yet, someday I'll get the info on the rules and try it out.


9 ball & 14.1 are two completely different games. Playing 9 ball in that fashion makes no sense to me. Once you pocket the 9 (as your break ball) would you respot it? 9 ball is a form of rotation, 14.1 isn't. You wouldn't play either of these games the same way. Just my opinion.

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this would be easier than you think because you are almost insured of pocketing a ball on the break(the break ball ),,,and you can position the cb on the next ball(the 1).

also, with one less ball in the rack, the balls will spread better.

forget the rotation part, and you get a game so easy, it's only good for beginner practice.
 
bruin70 said:
this would be easier than you think because you are almost insured of pocketing a ball on the break(the break ball ),,,and you can position the cb on the next ball(the 1).

also, with one less ball in the rack, the balls will spread better.

forget the rotation part, and you get a game so easy, it's only good for beginner practice.

Why would you be almost insured of pocketing the break ball? Wouldnt be any different than straight pool as far as pocketing the break ball would be concerned.

It would actually make high runs harder I would think. To run 100 in straight pool you would have to set up for a break shot eight times. If there are only 9 balls on the table you would have to do it thirteen times if I am thinking clearly. Not to mention the rack you are trying to break would be smaller, giving you less target area to hit. I dont think it would be as easy as you think.
 
woody_968 said:
Why would you be almost insured of pocketing the break ball? Wouldnt be any different than straight pool as far as pocketing the break ball would be concerned.

It would actually make high runs harder I would think. To run 100 in straight pool you would have to set up for a break shot eight times. If there are only 9 balls on the table you would have to do it thirteen times if I am thinking clearly. Not to mention the rack you are trying to break would be smaller, giving you less target area to hit. I dont think it would be as easy as you think.

Thats a good point about having to set up a break shot more with only 9balls. Might be a good way to practice getting a break shot.
Thats true about rack size as well.
 
woody_968 said:
Why would you be almost insured of pocketing the break ball? Wouldnt be any different than straight pool as far as pocketing the break ball would be concerned.

It would actually make high runs harder I would think. To run 100 in straight pool you would have to set up for a break shot eight times. If there are only 9 balls on the table you would have to do it thirteen times if I am thinking clearly. Not to mention the rack you are trying to break would be smaller, giving you less target area to hit. I dont think it would be as easy as you think.

the first point was one of comparison to 9ball. "you are almost assured of pocketing the break shot" meant that, in 9ball you don't know if a ball will drop on the break. in THIS game, you are assured of it unless you miss.

as to your second point. we are talking about pocketing any ball, not rotation, yes? in this case, running 8 balls is ridiculously easy, with 6 less balls to negotiate, 6 less balls means less traffic. 6 less balls also means that the balls will spread easily as you have eliminated 6 balls from the rack's mass. so you don't need to hit the rack on the button and the smaller target means nothing. theonly time the break on 8 balls is different, i would assume, is in trying to break from below the rack. FROM THERE, the rack is smaller, as you say, because you have eliminated the two corners. but from your standard break, you're still breaking into a big rack.

and i'd rather run 10 easy racks than 6 difficult ones. the NUMBERS of racks are meaningless to a good player. but making the racks easier to run is huge.

ps,,,there will be less cb scratching on the break because the cb will go through the rack better, instead of sliding off the rack and dropping in the pocket. and because the balls will spread better, you can break with a moderate stroke with great cb control instead of blasting.

a lot of runs end off the break because there's no shot afterwards. either too much traffic, the cb gets buried in the stack, or not enough balls get loose from the rack. this won't happen in an 8 ball rack.
 
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One of the best 9-ball drills I have used is trying to run the table in Mississippi 9-ball.
Johnnyt
 
8 Ball 9 Ball.

I don't know about 9 ball 14.1 but we used to play "8 ball 9 ball" with 4 stripes 4 solids and the 8 ball racked like 9 ball with eight ball rules + ball in hand like Texas Express 9-ball. It's a good game for beginners because there is less congestion on the table and beginners/intermediate players have a better chance of running out or devising patterns to run out even if they don't quite get there. It's an easier game than regular 8 ball but not as hard as 9 ball. 14.1 is a good game the way it is, it's a pity that this still isn't the championship game because there's very little luck involved and you have a lot of options for patterns because it's not a rotation game. I think the way pros play 9-ball equalizes the game too much. Go back to 14.1 and we would really see who the best players are.
 
Zagiflyer said:
I don't know about 9 ball 14.1 but we used to play "8 ball 9 ball" with 4 stripes 4 solids and the 8 ball racked like 9 ball with eight ball rules + ball in hand like Texas Express 9-ball. It's a good game for beginners because there is less congestion on the table and beginners/intermediate players have a better chance of running out or devising patterns to run out even if they don't quite get there. It's an easier game than regular 8 ball but not as hard as 9 ball. 14.1 is a good game the way it is, it's a pity that this still isn't the championship game because there's very little luck involved and you have a lot of options for patterns because it's not a rotation game. I think the way pros play 9-ball equalizes the game too much. Go back to 14.1 and we would really see who the best players are.

I agree Zagiflyer. Johnnyt
 
Fiddling with 14.1? Why fiddle with perfection? Catch the straight pool bug. You won't regret it.
 
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