8 ball end game - advice?

[PoppaSaun]

And the draw shot (which might not be possible with a big bar ball):

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This looks almost identical to how I played my last three when I broke-and-ran for the match-winning game in a 5-man team event. Wasn't hard then, isn't hard now.

 

[chefjeff]

Here is what that shot looks like on a 9-foot table (Virtual Pool 4):

The problem with that shot is the 10 will get spin and might not drop but instead go to the other tit and back to where it started, especially on a deep-shelf Olhausen.

Not that that's ever happened to ME.

I prefer hitting the left tit first then the 10 goes in and the cb comes up table off that side rail.


Jeff Livingston

 

[Bob Jewett]

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I prefer hitting the left tit first then the 10 goes in and the cb comes up table off that side rail.


Jeff Livingston

Then the problem can be that the cue ball hits the other tit and never gets up-table. A lot depends on exactly what the pocket is like as you mentioned.

 

[Scratch85]

What was surprisingly easy was starting with the 10 coming off the right cushion.

especially on a deep-shelf Olhausen.Jeff Livingston

A lot depends on exactly what the pocket is like as you mentioned.

Thought I should mention, I was playing the shot on an Olhausen. I placed the 10 as deep as possible and frozen to the left side.

Hitting the 10 from the right cushion wouldn't have even come to mind in this situation during a game. It would have been at best my 3rd choice, But I will consider it every time now. As I said, it was a surprisingly easy shot.

 

[KMRUNOUT]

If the 10 was out a bit more instead of being buried so deep in the pocket your option is a lot more viable, but with the ten against the facing and buried as deep as it can possibly get, literally hanging on the lip with all of the 10 ball being completely past the points, on a table with really deep shelves like in the diagram, I don't think it is the best option. Even if you chose to go 10 ball first anyway, I don't think trying to use the rails on a ball buried this deep would be the best choice in this case and you would probably be better served trying to draw back without rail contact.

It would be interesting if some people who have tables with really deep shelves (where the 10 can be buried with all of the ball completely past the points) would try this runout ten times each going 10 ball first using the rails, 10 ball first drawing back without rail contact, and 13 ball first, and report back how how often they run out each way. We might be surprised by the results, or perhaps they might vary by person. Has to be on a table with really deep pockets where the 10 can be fully past the points though otherwise it won't resemble this layout.

Yeah...honestly I'd really have to see it in person. I'll be at Turning Stone on Diamonds so maybe I'll try to set it up and try it out.

KMRUNOUT


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[fastone371]

For the ball to be that deep in the pocket, those are some deep shelves. Nonetheless, it certainly seems like the cueball hits the point and can be directed from there. I hear your opinion. Mine differs. I play of the very edge of the rail frequently. The poster asked how would you play this. I said how. In person, it may look different, and I may elect to play the 13.

KMRUNOUT


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With the 10 so deep in the jaws if you can in fact hit the left edge of the 10 the cue ball is going to play very fast cause you are hitting so little ball and so much cushion. If I can get the edge of the 10 I would play that with RH english to hit the long rail above the 8 then go down to the opposite short rail and back for the 13 in the side. If you dont play your speed right because its an unfamiliar table you still have at least a couple other pockets you can shoot for.

 

[Johnny Rosato]

Had this layout last week in league. I was stripes. What is your first instinct to run out from here?

I will post what I did later (This happened hill-hill and I lost my match), but wanted to get other opinions. I've set up this layout a few times on the practice table since then and I still don't see a great easy way out....

The problem is the 10 ball - it's in the jaws pretty much as displayed in the diagram. I had one shot at it before this turn and already missed it once coming off the rail, and fouled.

Bank the 13 with hard draw & a little right bringing rock back to short rail & then into 10 ball leaving 8 skrate in the upper left corner!