"8 ball is real pool."

[Aaron_S]

oh, I getcha. I've witnessed Jesse Bowman completely dismantle VERY VERY good players playing both on a barbox. But more times than not, a player is better at one than the other.

I played a guy some 14.1 races to 100, and won 3 in a row, when he said he really liked playing 1P better.....HEADS! lol. Let's just say we ended up playing 9ball after just a couple of 1P games.

Agreed. Straight pool and 1p are totally different animals, though, and I don't make ANY assumptions about a player when those games are involved. There's just too much specialized knowledge involved, which is why I love those games despite the fact that I can't play them a lick. :smile:

Aaron

 

[cuesblues]

You guys are all idiots.....Cut Throat is the only real pool game :grin:

LOL, the 8-ball comment is the all-loving bar/bangers anthem.....I like 8-ball, but it's the least favorite of all games....

1 pocket rocks
14.1, super cool
Rotation, awesome
9-ball, greatness
10-ball, equally great
banks, fun
8-ball - only for league :grin:

I disagree...:smile:
Bumper pool is the only real pool game.

All other pool games evolved from bar box 9-ball

 

[dabarbr]

You guys are all idiots.....Cut Throat is the only real pool game :grin:

LOL, the 8-ball comment is the all-loving bar/bangers anthem.....I like 8-ball, but it's the least favorite of all games....

1 pocket rocks
14.1, super cool
Rotation, awesome
9-ball, greatness
10-ball, equally great
banks, fun
8-ball - only for league :grin:

It's funny how everyones list would be different.

For me after many years of playing I find the most challenging and enjoyable games to be:
One pocket
Bar table eight ball
Straight pool

 

[paksat]

8-ball on a fast bar box is my favorite with 10 ball a close second

then straight pool.... the rest of the games can kiss my @ss ESPECIALLY 9 ball and one pocket.... just the sound of one pocket makes me sick honestly.

Got asked if i played any one pocket last night.. now that was funny.

 

[Ghosst]

I agree with the majority, each is it's own specialization and requiring a different skill set. I don't play 9-ball that often but I can play it. I tend more toward:

8-Ball
Snooker
14.1
10-Ball
9-Ball
Rotation
1-Pocket

It's not that I dislike any of the games at all, I just have my favorites. Playing 1 Pocket requires the most time and so I rarely, if ever, play it. 9-Ball is mostly a gambling sport here, which I don't enjoy. I can switch between games without much concern; it's more a matter of preference.

 

[trustyrusty]

I agree with the majority, each is it's own specialization and requiring a different skill set. I don't play 9-ball that often but I can play it. I tend more toward:

8-Ball
Snooker
14.1
10-Ball
9-Ball
Rotation
1-Pocket

It's not that I dislike any of the games at all, I just have my favorites. Playing 1 Pocket requires the most time and so I rarely, if ever, play it. 9-Ball is mostly a gambling sport here, which I don't enjoy. I can switch between games without much concern; it's more a matter of preference.

All these comments on 1P taking WAY too much time tells me that many on here don't play a whole lot of it. I mean, sure, each game takes longer, but I've asked guys to play a race to 3, and they'd rather play a race to 21 (maybe an exaggeration ) in 9ball instead. What I'm saying is they'll play HOURS of 9ball vs. 1 hour of 1P, and I think it's just an excuse (in most cases) not to play something they don't play or practice much. Not ripping on anyone, just saying that a possible outcome of 5 games of 1P isn't a marathon that most make it out to be.

Though it is rare (admittedly), I did take down a race to 3 in 1P in just over a half an hour last week (though 1 game was a 10 and out). Needless to say, we switched to 9ball right after that set....lol, and each of those sets was definitely LONGER.

 

[MitchAlsup]

Actually, its 14.1 continuous that is "Real Pool".

 

[3andstop]

Actually, its 14.1 continuous that is "Real Pool".

Agreed, and the depth of the game eludes and humbles an awful lot of run out 9 ball players (even though they won't admit it) that claim its brainless to just shoot in any ball you want any time you want. That is until they find they can't get through two racks and they get so frustrated they call the game boring or stupid when in fact it is too complicated for them to be bothered with.

Too bad "real pool" by today's standards, has been reduced to rotation "bang em up" games. This has been the evolution over the past few generations.

It's analogous to the complexity and beauty of chess loosing popularity to a game like backgammon. It's because the younger generation doesn't want to have to think, just make shots and play by number.

I'm very happy that Charlie Williams is keeping the game alive and possibly even rebounding a bit in popularity.

edit ..... Oh yeah, my games of preference are 14.1, then 1 pocket, then 8 ball, and then if you shoved bamboo shoots under my finger nails, 10 ball and 9 ball.

 

[TheVirus]

Personally, I like 8 ball better for now since I'm a newer player. I don't like 9 ball for the fact that if I mess up on the 9 ball, even if I ran 1-8, I lose. 8 ball requires both parties to have ball pocketing skills. Although to practice I play 9 ball for position play. For fun though, I'd play anything.

 

[Pushout]

I'll go you one better. I've encountered people in this part of the country to whom Straight Pool isn't Straight Pool but 8 ball, also known as "regular pool" and/or "ordinary pool".
Also used in regard to striking the cue ball with no english. Honest!

 

[Masayoshi]

I'll go you one better. I've encountered people in this part of the country to whom Straight Pool isn't Straight Pool but 8 ball, also known as "regular pool" and/or "ordinary pool".
Also used in regard to striking the cue ball with no english. Honest!

It took me 3 tries to understand what you were trying to say...

 

[Pushout]

It took me 3 tries to understand what you were trying to say...

The emphasis is on the bolded words. In NY we always pronounced it Straight Pool. The people who say it regarding 8 ball put the emphasis on Pool and the meanings are as I described. I never heard the emphasis put on pool until I moved to South Carolina.
Some people say Straight Pool as in Straight 8, which isn't actually a game at all.

 

[Jason Koopman]

Happens to me all the time, typically in bars. I personally dislike 8 ball the most of all games and prefer 9 0r 10 ball.

 

[DeepBanks]

Agreed . . .

8-ball on the barbox is my favorite. Small space, more balls, clusters, precision shape, etc.

More challenging then most people think . . .

And if you crave even more, then play 15 ball rotation, with last pocket on the 15, on a bar box . . .

 

[Ratta]

Hi all *Pool-Lovers* ^^

First: i like every rule-is it 8,9-10, straight-pool etc. etc.

Many people don t see, that each rule has its own charme-and that you need to *understand* each rule for herself to be able to understand the strategy.
On a tournament i played longer ago i watched a game (9-ball)-set to 7.
The guy won 7-1 and he made 3 or 4 aces (9 on the break). The opponent whas whining terrible, lol- 9 ball just luck blabla- if you would play me on 8-ball then.......blabla. -the other guy immediatley offered him to play 8 ball until 7 for 1.000 a set-and with handicap.. (opponent had to win 4, and HE 7). He said yes (i have still a smile on my face remembering it)- The guy who won the 9-ball set started the 8-ball set with 6 runouts- and won later 7-1.
After the set again the looser was whining how unlucky he was (rofl) and how lucky the winner acted.

That s the typical story whe all know from our well know experts Loosing to sets on different games............and it was all about an unlucky game^^
Last Sentence of the winner after pocketing the last 8-ball:
"Well, this f....in game is soooo eaaasy, if you have a straight stroke...perhaps you have to work a bit on your stroke (with a real evil smile on his face ). . Sometimes god is really spending some times in pool-halls

No matter what rule- you just need a straight stroke ...nothing more, lol^^


lg from overseas,

Ingo^^

 

[TheNewSharkster]

Sometimes I think 8ball is real pool compared with 9ball. More balls, more clusters, more options. Probably a more difficult game to run out in.

 

[Runnintable]

Sometimes I think 8ball is real pool compared with 9ball. More balls, more clusters, more options. Probably a more difficult game to run out in.

In 8-ball you do not have to shoot in rotation. Just your grouping, therefore I would consider 8-ball a little bit easier to run out the table.
For better players (A/B and up) on a BarBox 9-ball might be easier, due to their knowledge of how to move whitey around the table.

What is an average breaknrun for each on a BarBox? Maybe we can find a stat from a recent barbox championship and/or BCA

 

[8pack]

Struck up conversation with a guy last night while I was racking a 9ball game and said "8ball is real pool. Everything else like 9 ball is a kids game."
I asked "Even one pocket and straight pool?" thats all I could say without laughing at him.

Do you ever run into people like this that only want to play one game?

I agree with you .8 ball while a fun game is what it is a game that almost
anyone that shoots pretty good has a chance to win.Maybe not in the long run but in short race's anyone can win.

The game that has it all is pocket a peice.
With out a doubt the best game there will ever be!

 

[TheNewSharkster]

In 8-ball you do not have to shoot in rotation. Just your grouping, therefore I would consider 8-ball a little bit easier to run out the table.
For better players (A/B and up) on a BarBox 9-ball might be easier, due to their knowledge of how to move whitey around the table.

What is an average breaknrun for each on a BarBox? Maybe we can find a stat from a recent barbox championship and/or BCA

Always a interesting subject. One that I actually made a topic about in the past. I honestly believe it to be more difficult to break and run out in 8ball. Obviously if player 1 runs down to the 8ball and misses than player 2 should have a chance at a easy table (but not a break and run). I am a little torn on this one. I would be interested in hearing the opinion of pro players on this subject.

 

[dabarbr]

Always a interesting subject. One that I actually made a topic about in the past. I honestly believe it to be more difficult to break and run out in 8ball. Obviously if player 1 runs down to the 8ball and misses than player 2 should have a chance at a easy table (but not a break and run). I am a little torn on this one. I would be interested in hearing the opinion of pro players on this subject.

My opinion as one with a lot of experience but not a pro.

Nine ball on the bar table is easier to run out because as you get through the rack there is less congestion and more room to work with.

In the case of eight ball, the further you get into the rack the less options you have and with your opponents balls remaining as obstacles on the table. The last few shots become critical because against a fair player you will probably lose if you don't get out once you commit yourself.