8 Ball Mis-hit

brazzman

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There may not be an "official" answer to this question as I know there are different rules for different players. Shooting 8 ball with usual ball-n-hand on all cue ball fouls and spot any balls not called. Anyway; I was shooting my last stripe which was sitting in the jaws of the corner pocket. Preventing a direct hit was the 8 ball sitting a few inches in front of the stripe. I banked the cue ball 2 rails hoping to kick in the stripe behind the 8. I instead I hit the 8 which hit the stripe into the pocket. So there was some "discussion" about how to proceed -- spot the stripe and give my opponent ball-n-hand or just spot the stripe or leave the stripe in and just give ball-n-hand. We decided to give my opponent one or the other penalty but not both. He wanted both. Which seems fair considering we didn't have a rule in the first place?
 
Obviously they are not playing APA rules. :wink:


I know there are different rules for different players.

Really? I run into this in bars all the time. It's very often why I don't play. If different players have different rules then why are you asking the question? You play your way and the other guy plays his way? Hell, you could play 9 ball while he's playing 8 ball....right? Really?


Isn't this how bar fights start?


To the OP: if you are going to make up the rules as you go along you are going to have conflicts. Pick a published current set of rules and follow them.





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There may not be an "official" answer to this question as I know there are different rules for different players. Shooting 8 ball with usual ball-n-hand on all cue ball fouls and spot any balls not called. Anyway; I was shooting my last stripe which was sitting in the jaws of the corner pocket. Preventing a direct hit was the 8 ball sitting a few inches in front of the stripe. I banked the cue ball 2 rails hoping to kick in the stripe behind the 8. I instead I hit the 8 which hit the stripe into the pocket. So there was some "discussion" about how to proceed -- spot the stripe and give my opponent ball-n-hand or just spot the stripe or leave the stripe in and just give ball-n-hand. We decided to give my opponent one or the other penalty but not both. He wanted both. Which seems fair considering we didn't have a rule in the first place?
I'd suggest to pass on the other posts that missed where you clarified what rules you were playing.


Since as you've said, you're playing with ball-in-hand rules, then your opponent gets ball in hand.

Since as you've said, you are playing that you spot balls dropped on non-called shots, it is 100% consistent that a ball pocketed as a result of an illegal hit gets spotted.

This comes from your own rules that you have told us that you are playing. He gets both.

That being said, I would suggest using current WPA rules next time.


Freddie <~~~ winner of a 1977 tournament in 1988
 
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