8-Ball Runout 18 August

Colin Colenso

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Open break, I'm sure the commentators are calling an easy out here, but which balls would you take and how would you go about this out to make sure of it?

Let's assume we all pot pretty well.

My first thought is the 2 and 15 are problem balls, so we need a pattern that deals with one of them.
 

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Open break, I'm sure the commentators are calling an easy out here, but which balls would you take and how would you go about this out to make sure of it?

Let's assume we all pot pretty well.

Drag of the 4 for the 1 in the corner. Make sure I have enough angle from 5 to 7 in the corner with follow to the 6. 2 in the side with follow. key ball is the 3. stun on draw depending on angle. 8 in the corner!
 
If the cloth is fairly slow/grippy and the cueball is light or equally as heavy as the object balls, I'm shooting the 4 first with draw to possibly get position on the 7 in the same corner. What I'm really hoping for, though, is a straighish shot on the 6 to get rid of it, and the 2. After that it should be easy. The 3 will be my key ball to the 8. If the cloth is slippery and the cueball heavy, I might go a different route.

4 to 5. Seven in the middle. 1 in the corner, 6, 2 in the middle, then 3.
 
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Open break, I'm sure the commentators are calling an easy out here, but which balls would you take and how would you go about this out to make sure of it?

Let's assume we all pot pretty well.

My first thought is the 2 and 15 are problem balls, so we need a pattern that deals with one of them.

2-ball is the ball that makes or breaks this rack. It looks like I can immediately play the 6-ball for the 2-ball. If I get on the 2-ball, this rack is solved.

Freddie
 
I might take the 6 in the side and follow 2 rails to end up with the 2 next with the 3 as a plan B.
 
Start with 6 on the side, perfect angle for 2 in opposite side. Leave slight angle for 3 to get shape on the 4.

Take the 4 in the corner next, making sure not to bump the 1. Leave angle on the 5 in the opposite corner, use inside english to bump the 14 and stop the cue ball there for the 7 in the side.

Then take the 1 as your last ball before the 8, bottom right corner, if you have the angle can bounce off the bottom rail nicely for the 8 at the top left corner.
 
By the way, anyone know of a book with patterns like this to solve from? Seems like it'd be good practice when not physically at a table.
 
2-ball is the ball that makes or breaks this rack. It looks like I can immediately play the 6-ball for the 2-ball. If I get on the 2-ball, this rack is solved.

Freddie
That's the first shot I saw, going either top right 2 rails or draw left from 6 to 2 ball, but I think the 7 ball is still problematic. How would you deal with that Fred?

FWIW: I'm going stripes, mainly due to the solids having the 2 and 7 to overcome.

Colin
 
By the way, anyone know of a book with patterns like this to solve from? Seems like it'd be good practice when not physically at a table.
I think it's great practice. After doing this stuff half the day, I broke and ran 3 racks off the bat today, which I normally wouldn't run, because I was thinking through the pattern options more clearly.

I use the cuetable at pool.bz to get these random 8-ball spreads. 4th icon from the middle when you open the tools. You can study options for each rack for 20+ mins to help tune the brain, and it helps to get feedback from others, because we can get one track minds.

Colin
 
The 4 to 1 or 7 seems risky to me, unless played 2 rail between the 14 and 5 balls and it leaved the 2 to be dealt with.

Here's my pattern on stripes. The first 2 shots are a little tricky, but I'd rather miss early than late in 8-ball so as to leave some balls on the table to reduce the opponent's options.

The 12 to 11 then 15 would give me a lot of pretty easy ways to finish the remaining 4 balls, all of which can be keys to the 8.
 

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By the way, anyone know of a book with patterns like this to solve from? Seems like it'd be good practice when not physically at a table.

Phil Cappelle Play your Best 8 Ball is very good. There is also 8 Ball Bible, but I have never read it.

The man who chose stripes has a sound argument. The 7 ball being near the spot with the one corner blocked could be a problem. I don't think playing for the side pocket on that angle and distance from the hole is ever a great idea. Unless you end up straight in , it will be hard to hold the cueball.

This is a pretty runable rack either way though. I love playing 8 ball, just rarely have the opportunity. Just a great game.
 
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