8 ball wwyd with bih

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You have solids. Ball in hand. 3-6-7 are your only balls on the table.
As table sits balls only have 1 pocket each.
Do you play this clean or move a stripe?

Picture distorts layout.
3 only goes bottm right corner.
6 only goes in bottom left corner.
7 only goes in top left corner.
 

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I think I'd make the 3 first and try to get straight on the 7 in the upper left corner, and then the 6 in the lower left. The 8 looks like it goes in either bottom corner. Definitely no reason to move anything.
 
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You have solids. Ball in hand. 3-6-7 are your only balls on the table.
As table sits balls only have 1 pocket each.
Do you play this clean or move a stripe?

can t really tell from your picture but if the 3 is clear in the top left then start with that one ...7 in the bottom left ...6 in the top left and then the 8 in top right.


pretty simple run out if the 3 goes in 1st.
 
I think I'd place the CB for the 7, then the 3, and then 6 - 8

Oh, the 7 only goes top left, then I'd go 3 7 6 8 I think... I read that wrong, I though you had to squeeze the 7 in the top right cause the two balls up top blocked it. Either way, not the toughest out. Moving balls is never good unless it's to control stopping the CB and you know exactly what's going to happen.
 
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3-7-6-8. Never move balls when you don't need to. You can't be sure of exactly where they will end up. You have an easy out, don't overthink it and confuse yourself.
 
Look at original post again.
If you are right handed 3 is hard to reach.
All balls have a "catch". Reach- shooting over a ball- moving balls.
Remember each ball only has one(1) clear pocket.
 
Look at original post again.
If you are right handed 3 is hard to reach.
All balls have a "catch". Reach- shooting over a ball- moving balls.
Remember each ball only has one(1) clear pocket.

Still not a problem with the ease of the shot with BIH. If you move the ball by the 3, you might block that corner from the 8. If you then also get on the wrong side of the 6, you are now in trouble and just made the rack a lot tougher than it was.

Even if you have to use the bridge, the 3 is as much a hanger with BIH as you could hope for.
 
I am going to shoot the seven ball first. Attempting to leave the cue ball just below the spot(critical to stay below the line of the three to the corner). Then I can shoot the three and stop or just drift slightly, staying below the line of the six to the corner. Then I can just roll the six in and the cue ball rolls away from the eight right on the line of the eight to the corner. No need to move any balls.:cool:
 
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If all balls have a pocket, there is no need to move anything.
- Play the 7 first simply because it would be easier than trying to shoot the 3 over the 7. Stop the CB for a straight in shot on the 3.
- Once the 7 is down, the 3 is easy because you don't have to play over any balls. Slight draw to get just shy of being straight in on the 6.
- Play the 6 and push the CB toward the left rail.
- 8 in the lower right corner.
 
You have solids. Ball in hand. 3-6-7 are your only balls on the table.
As table sits balls only have 1 pocket each.
Do you play this clean or move a stripe?

Picture distorts layout.
3 only goes bottm right corner.
6 only goes in bottom left corner.
7 only goes in top left corner.



I would shot 7. Top corner with draw. Break out the tied up ball and run the rest out.
 
6 ball first. Screw back into the 11 to hold for the 3 and also get the 7 and 11 out of the way to make the 3 easier. Next the 3. Then the 7. The 7 should now go into the right side and the bottom left. Depending on how you get on the 3 is the pocket you choose.

Bumping Balls is your friend. Mr Bumping Balls is here to help you and make things easier. Its all well and good saying if the layout has a pocket for each then don't bump balls. But the layout is made far easier by bumping the 11 out of the way. Without that, position needs to be spot on and the 3 is a stretch and really awkward and it opens up and extra pocket...maybe 2 for the 7. With BIH its far too easy to go into the 11 so I wouldn't ever turn down that opportunity.
 
6 ball first. Screw back into the 11 to hold for the 3 and also get the 7 and 11 out of the way to make the 3 easier. Next the 3. Then the 7. The 7 should now go into the right side and the bottom left. Depending on how you get on the 3 is the pocket you choose.

Bumping Balls is your friend. Mr Bumping Balls is here to help you and make things easier. Its all well and good saying if the layout has a pocket for each then don't bump balls. But the layout is made far easier by bumping the 11 out of the way. Without that, position needs to be spot on and the 3 is a stretch and really awkward and it opens up and extra pocket...maybe 2 for the 7. With BIH its far too easy to go into the 11 so I wouldn't ever turn down that opportunity.

Ahh thats easier,,, maybe 6-8 combo instead? :D
 
Bumping Balls is your friend. Mr Bumping Balls is here to help you and make things easier. Its all well and good saying if the layout has a pocket for each then don't bump balls. But the layout is made far easier by bumping the 11 out of the way. Without that, position needs to be spot on and the 3 is a stretch and really awkward and it opens up and extra pocket...maybe 2 for the 7. With BIH its far too easy to go into the 11 so I wouldn't ever turn down that opportunity.

We have a different philosophy. I prefer to get out without unnecessarily bumping any other balls if possible. I find that bumping balls adds more variables that have to be factored in. I'd feel dumb if I bumped a ball and created a problem for myself when a problem didn't exist in the first place.
 
Yeah I think you've nailed it with our philosophies. It also depends on your background. Mine is primarily snooker with some UK 8 Ball thrown in there. Snooker bumping balls is a must have skill to keep breaks alive. Balls on the cushions are a no no so going into them to break them out is higher percentage than trying to pot them. Soon enough you learn to play break out shots and judge caroms and the balls layout after.

In this particular layout the shot on the 3 is awful, even with BIH. Bridging is also awful on the 7 if you play it as the first shot.

Looking at the layout again you could play the 6 in the side and follow into the 11 if you feel more comfortable following the white. The pot becomes tricky though.
 
If this were on a snooker table, you might be right Pidge, but on a pool table the 3 ball is an easy shot with ball in hand.
Like you said, any good player could bump the 11 and get shape, but that's just adding an unnecessary variable to what is otherwise a simple stop-shot layout.
 
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