If you win the winners side you play 6 Matches. If you lose your first match and go back through you have to play 11 matches total...
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rack'em zach'em said:It's true on the payout breakdown. The bar does not own the tables. They are owned by progressive enterntainment. Progressive will not allow us to open the tables. But they did agree to throw back in the money as a gesture to the tournament. Generally players do put in the added money in a bar box tournament. Unless it's a big bar with a lot of extra cash to through around.
The Fast Eddies Tour adds $1750 to each tournament, but they can afford it due to the size of the tournament and the bar. The rest of the business that they can do on the side more than pays for it. Then again they also have great sponsors that contribute as well...
I haven't been to a lot of bar boxes around here, but I know up in Missouri when I played it was based similar to the way I'm doing it, And even if a player does spend $30 to $40 in quarters(equals the same as a $50-$70 entry) there playing for the rest of the money everyone else is putting in the tables minus a few bucks. It's like were renting 4 bar boxes for $120 for 2 days. Seems like a good deal to me.
It's split quarters now that way if you lose to say Chen 9-0 and then TJ 7-0 and go two and out you have only spent a total of $33 including the $25 entry. The further you make it in the tournament the more you will have to spend, but that's why I'm making the payout the way I am.
I know personally I don't like green fees, and everyone please keep in mind that this is a nice little bar with pool tables in it. It's not actually a pool hall. Bill the owner is a great guy and I'm sure once he starts having a good turnout he may even be willing to bump the money added. I hope to see everyone there!!!
Thanks,
Rack'em
It just seemed on the flyer that the bar was adding 500-1000 when that was not the case. That is good that the owners of the Progresive tables will let ya'll get some of the money put in, back out.rack'em zach'em said:It's true on the payout breakdown. The bar does not own the tables. They are owned by progressive enterntainment. Progressive will not allow us to open the tables. But they did agree to throw back in the money as a gesture to the tournament. Generally players do put in the added money in a bar box tournament. Unless it's a big bar with a lot of extra cash to throw around.
The Fast Eddies Tour adds $1750 to each tournament, but they can afford it due to the size of the tournament and the bar. The rest of the business that they can do on the side more than pays for it. Then again they also have great sponsors that contribute as well...
I haven't been to a lot of bar boxes around here, but I know up in Missouri when I played it was based similar to the way I'm doing it, And even if a player does spend $30 to $40 in quarters(equals the same as a $50-$70 entry) there playing for the rest of the money everyone else is putting in the tables minus a few bucks. It's like were renting 4 bar boxes for $120 for 2 days. Seems like a good deal to me.
It's split quarters now that way if you lose to say Chen 9-0 and then TJ 7-0 and go two and out you have only spent a total of $33 including the $25 entry. The further you make it in the tournament the more you will have to spend, but that's why I'm making the payout the way I am.
I know personally I don't like green fees, and everyone please keep in mind that this is a nice little bar with pool tables in it. It's not actually a pool hall. Bill the owner is a great guy and I'm sure once he starts having a good turnout he may even be willing to bump the money added. I hope to see everyone there!!!
Thanks,
Rack'em
Captain K. said:Like I had said in the start of my first post the only experince I have had with a bar box tourny was at state and nationals, and they let it be known that the quarters go to the rental of the tables, of course the added money comes from league dues and other sponsers.
Hope it works out
Kennan
More tournaments means more chances of money for the playersrack'em zach'em said:Okay guys the dates are set in stone....Sorry I jumped the gun a little on the new dates but we're good to go!!! October 18th and 19th(with 40 or more around there)
rack'em zach'em said:league dues ? This tournament is not involved with a league...Just worry about my old tournament and I'll worry about this one..And please come get your bracket I don't want you to hang that over my head...my guess all of this was an attempt to make this tourny look bad so you could try to save yours..Two months ago I had 37 players at JRs and last month it was down to 17...ya'll shouldn't have messed with the format since it seemed to be working. JMO...all this because I made my tournament on the same weekend..oh man lol...
Thanks,
Rack'em
I will go back to speak with Marsha "UPL" about that , but it was how we had been informed that the league fees helped with both state and nationals.ne14tennis said:I think you're misinformed. The league dues go to the main orginazation, not back to a state tourney as added money
I have never understood why Zachs keeps claiming these tournamnets are "His", I mean he does not supply the pool rooms or tables or even added money, I have been running the weekly 8 and 9 tournys at JRsf or over 10 years and I would not consider them "MY" tournys. They are always the establishments tournaments.ne14tennis said:Kinda testy there Zach? Doesn't take much for the Kinder Gentler Zach to head South.....does it?
Captain K. said:I have never understood why Zachs keeps claiming these tournamnets are "His", I mean he does not supply the pool rooms or tables or even added money, I have been running the weekly 8 and 9 tournys at JRsf or over 10 years and I would not consider them "MY" tournys. They are always the establishments tournaments.
As far as the bracket Zach borrowed, when I had borrowed something I was taught to return them, but each to his own, I'll make the drive to Lake Dallas pick it up.
It seems hepling out was just to get my hand bit.
Later and thanks again for your input on the League fees
Kennan Keffer
You ran the tournament,set the handicaps ran and Bid in the Callcuta's, and took 10% off the top what do you mean you do not get paid for the tournyrack'em zach'em said:And by me saying my tournaments I mean as a tournament director they were mine..It's for the players...Hell I don't even get paid for the events I run at any of the places I run tournaments...Is that not good enough? They always ask me what I want for running a tournament and I tell them nothing...Did Andrew ever offer anything /...Hell no end of discussion