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captainkoons

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Is there anywhere where I can find break statistics on players?

Who breaks the hardest?

Who makes the most balls? How often?

What's the biggest break you've seen? The worse I've seen is a 4 ball break in 9ball and the 9ball went into a legal pocket (not the two corner pockets near the rack) in person.

Cheers guys!
 
I made 7 balls on the break one time in a match, the 9ball included. What made it even better was that it was a hill-hill match in a tournament too lol.

As far as the hardest breaks, Im sure Larry Nevel is way up there. Wu and Jeff de Luna have a massively hard break as well.
 
Mike Dechaine and Bustamante both can hit well over 30mph. Larry Nevel has a big break also.

The biggest break I've seen in person is a guy making 8 balls on the break playing 8ball. Big bucket pockets, though.
There is a youtube video of Alex P. playing 9ball, making 6 on the break and selling out and losing the rack.
 
I'd really like to see statistics regarding consistency/averages.

I guess it doesn't really matter, people usually try to break the same if they've got something that's working on the table they're playing on.
 
captainkoons said:
Is there anywhere where I can find break statistics on players?

Who breaks the hardest?

Who makes the most balls? How often?

What's the biggest break you've seen? The worse I've seen is a 4 ball break in 9ball and the 9ball went into a legal pocket (not the two corner pockets near the rack) in person.

Cheers guys!
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Accu-stats used to keep detailed stats on this sort of thing, and years ago they started out focused
mostly on statistics, and put out a little magazine. To compile the stats they filmed matches.
Inevitably, they grew into a pool video company, selling those filmed matches.

Now they only rate the player's performance (errors and so on) in a specific match.
I think some videos don't even include the ratings anymore.

But! Several (all?) of the Accu-stats magazines from years ago were scanned and used to be available on this site.
Luckily the internet archive saved copies of these scans even though they're gone from azbilliards.
You can view them here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20120816035452/http://www.azbilliards.com/accustats/

More recently, AZ user "AtLarge" compiles break stats on virtually every major event and posts them here.
It's sort of his specialty. Just type AtLarge break stats in google,
and then add site:forums.azbilliards.com afterwards, to limit the results to this site.
Here's a shortcut:
https://www.google.com/search?q=atlarge+break+stats+site:forums.azbilliards.com

Off the top of my head:
The hardest depends on whether they have to keep it on the table or not.
Past a certain speed that's very tough.
Here's Mike Dechaine breaking 32 mph (flies off)
and here he is breaking 33.5 mph (also flies off).

Basically, several guys can hit over 30 but it's risky.
Bustamante is famous for a big and very effective break.
Larry Nevel is famous for his monster stroke like table length draw 1 handed, and can also break over 30.
Yvgeny Stalev is a russian champ with a very flashy powerful break, he actually hops on the table.

For number of balls made on the break, the most I ever heard of was 7 and the most I ever saw personally was 6.

For the pro who averages the most... I dunno but Shane Van Boening is worth mentioning.
He's famous for having arguably the best 10b break in the world. He makes the same ball very consistently
and often drops a 2nd ball too. In one of his strongest matches vs. Mike Dechaine,
he averaged about 1.8 balls on the break and Mike averaged 1.7 or so. Shane made 4 balls on 3 different breaks.
In the US Open, Shane made a ball without fouling 80% of the time.
 
Interesting! I'd like to see results, too... I made four balls on the break once! Coincidently, it was the day I bought my break cue and I was using a magic rack! Needless to say, I was sold on the break cue.
 
CreeDo said:
Accu-stats used to keep detailed stats on this sort of thing, and years ago they started out focused
mostly on statistics, and put out a little magazine. To compile the stats they filmed matches.
Inevitably, they grew into a pool video company, selling those filmed matches.

Now they only rate the player's performance (errors and so on) in a specific match.
I think some videos don't even include the ratings anymore.

But! Several (all?) of the Accu-stats magazines from years ago were scanned and used to be available on this site.
Luckily the internet archive saved copies of these scans even though they're gone from azbilliards.
You can view them here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20120816035452/http://www.azbilliards.com/accustats/

More recently, AZ user "AtLarge" compiles break stats on virtually every major event and posts them here.
It's sort of his specialty. Just type AtLarge break stats in google,
and then add site:forums.azbilliards.com afterwards, to limit the results to this site.
Here's a shortcut:
https://www.google.com/search?q=atlarge+break+stats+site:forums.azbilliards.com

Off the top of my head:
The hardest depends on whether they have to keep it on the table or not.
Past a certain speed that's very tough.
Here's Mike Dechaine breaking 32 mph (flies off)
and here he is breaking 33.5 mph (also flies off).

Basically, several guys can hit over 30 but it's risky.
Bustamante is famous for a big and very effective break.
Larry Nevel is famous for his monster stroke like table length draw 1 handed, and can also break over 30.
Yvgeny Stalev is a russian champ with a very flashy powerful break, he actually hops on the table.

For number of balls made on the break, the most I ever heard of was 7 and the most I ever saw personally was 6.

For the pro who averages the most... I dunno but Shane Van Boening is worth mentioning.
He's famous for having arguably the best 10b break in the world. He makes the same ball very consistently
and often drops a 2nd ball too. In one of his strongest matches vs. Mike Dechaine,
he averaged about 1.8 balls on the break and Mike averaged 1.7 or so. Shane made 4 balls on 3 different breaks.
In the US Open, Shane made a ball without fouling 80% of the time.
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Nice info!

It's hard to keep the CB on the table over 25 mph. I recently used a phone app which showed my best break at 28mph. I think I was hitting it harder 6 years ago when I made this video on Power Breaking, when I was training for it for several weeks. Includes tips of generating power. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW1tsONEI_U

You'll see the CB bouncing back past the center of the table and a couple going off the table.

I've seen Larry Nevel break and play power shots up close, as well as Corey Deuel. Larry is the most powerful hitter I've ever seen. Corey can power up very well too!
 
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