9 Ball Rankings
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Cornerman said:
Most commonly, the skill ranks for APA 8 are one less for 9ball. if your a SL5 in 9ball you'll usually be a SL6 in 8ball. So whatever your rank is in 8ball you are generally 1 skill rank less in 9ball. Some players are the same SL in both 8 & 9 but most carry a higher 8ball SL. I dont think I've spoken with anyone that plays both and has a higher SL in 9ball than 8.
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I don't see that here (or anywhere). And my first year in APA was 1988, so I've seen a lot.Beware_of_Dawg said:
I normally see that the 9-ball ranking is the same or one higher than their 8-ball ranking when considering SL-5's and above. This makes a lot of sense considering that you top out at SL-7 in 8-ball, whereas 9-ball tops out at SL-9. You can't go one higher for your 8-ball handicap if you're an SL-7 in 9-ball. I know several APA SL-7's in 9-ball that will never get passed an SL-6 in APA 8-ball.
For SL-4's and below, the 9-ball handicap is normally the same or lower than their 8-ball handicap. This also makes sense since the 8-ball handicap has a bottom limit of SL-2, whereas the 9-ball handicap goes down to SL-1.
What does everyone else see?
Fred
Cornerman said:
We have many here who are 7's or 8's in 9ball and are 6's in 8ball so....
Another thing I noticed from a friend of mine that played in a different area is that SL's aren't consistent wherever you go. I'm sure this is mostly a sandbagging issue, but interesting none the less. Just my thoughts.
Matt
Surprising, but it is what it is.Cue Freak said:
I rarely chalk this up to sandbagging, but moreso that differenent areas are going to have different levels of strength. For example, I had a teammate who struggled as an SL-4 in APA 8-ball. We had a pretty strong region, relatively speaking, so he lost a lot as an SL-4. He moved to a college town that didn't have many strong players. In fact, he was one of the strongest. His winning percentage went up, his total innings went down (due to not losing games that he would have had he been in my area), and he ended up being a high winning percentage SL-6.
So, that's the reality of two different regions that are only 50 miles apart.
Fred
PROG8R said:
let me double check the APA Tampa website to verify but Im pretty sure there are no 9's at all.
Edit- juust checked there are 80 registered 9ball players on rosters. There are zero SL9's, & zero SL8's. There are about 10-15 SL7's.
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PROG8R said:
yeah, they do that. the new website is pretty boss. you can check your personal stats against dirrefent skill levels, check your lifetime stats, there are various performance graphs you can access. all kinds of analysis toys.
Cornerman said:
I agree. In the bigger divisions and bigger cities, there is a lot more competition, and the skill levels are harder to come by. In a smaller area there is not that much competition. I am a sl6 in 8 ball, and 7 in 9 ball, but even though there are not many APA players in my area that beat me, I know I am not that great of a player. Just switch to my Valley league, and there are several people in that league who consistantly out shoot me. Then consider this is small town America compared to most areas.
I'm guessing I'd be a five in our 9 ball league...
PROG8R said:
Our LO is the same way. I've been asking him for months now if I can get some stats for the past 5 years I've been playing. Guess I'll have to try when I move. I talked to the DM up in Dayton, OH and she said they keep track of all that stuff. It sucks that more LO's don't take pride in there franchises.
Matt
My brother is a 9 in the APA....
My brother is a 9 in the APA and is one of only three people in vegas to have broke and run all 7 games for the win. We pretty ,uch go back and forth but I am probably still a little better than him and he told me that if I were to join the APA (we were talking about making a team) that I would probably be made a nine within a couple of months. I don't like playing on bar boxes so I haven't really played league.
When he was home on leave from Iraq, we went to where he played league and after a three pack playing on bar boxes, he made us switch to alternate breaks so he could have a shot. We ended up only playing about 10 games.
Jaden.
Beware_of_Dawg said:
My brother is a 9 in the APA and is one of only three people in vegas to have broke and run all 7 games for the win. We pretty ,uch go back and forth but I am probably still a little better than him and he told me that if I were to join the APA (we were talking about making a team) that I would probably be made a nine within a couple of months. I don't like playing on bar boxes so I haven't really played league.
When he was home on leave from Iraq, we went to where he played league and after a three pack playing on bar boxes, he made us switch to alternate breaks so he could have a shot. We ended up only playing about 10 games.
Jaden.
That is what I have generally seen, as well. I played in MD for quite a while and I would say that most people were either the same ranking in 8 or 9 ball or they would be one skill level higher in 9 ball than 8 ball for SL5 and above.Cornerman said:
When I played both 8 and 9 ball, I was a 6 in 8 ball and a 7 in 9 ball, before being moved up to an 8. I didn't play much 8 ball after that but felt pretty confident that I would have moved to a 7 if I would have played on an 8 ball team at that point.
Well I met and played with a APA 9ball "9SL"... Frankly I wasn't impressed at all. Not that he wasn't a good shooter, he was Ok. Really I'm not sure what I expected... He redily admitted that there was no way he could beat me in a handicapped APA match, without a lot of lucky breaks. (I'm just a 6SL). Must be a real challenge to play at a 8 handicap against a good shooter at a lower skill level.