a DCC observation relevant to timing

iusedtoberich said:
I'd be super curious to hear what their conversations were with Digital Pool. I read that DP put tablets on each table for the scores, that ended up having some technical difficulties. I'm sure that can be worked out. I don't think the tablets were tied into the tournament software, but were rather for the purpose of the re-streamers to know the score of the outside table live streams. I'm guessing at this.

But even better, would be if they discussed digital pool managing the table assignments, score keeping, and draw.

Before everyone says the buyback format is different, I'm well aware. I doubt it would be much trouble for DP to make some adjustments to their software to accommodate the buyback format.

One big plus specifically for table utilization, is as soon as the players submit the score, the software would know to assign AND text another pair of players to get on that table.
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I thought Bad Boys ran the tournament!
 
decent dennis said:
I thought Bad Boys ran the tournament!
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From what I recall they only were in charge of setting up the tables/lights/etc. I also recall a press release a few years ago that the DCC was breaking ties with them. I could be way off on this, don't take it as gospel!
 
iusedtoberich said:
From what I recall they only were in charge of setting up the tables/lights/etc. I also recall a press release a few years ago that the DCC was breaking ties with them. I could be way off on this, don't take it as gospel!
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Ken S. was thanking them during the stream so they are still involved.
 
The first step needs to be moving the 9 ball back to races to 7. If they wanted races to 9 after round 10 that would probably work as well. Everyone points to banks and one pocket being that hold up, but I think it is the extra games added to 9 ball.
 
The Milk Man said:
The first step needs to be moving the 9 ball back to races to 7. If they wanted races to 9 after round 10 that would probably work as well. Everyone points to banks and one pocket being that hold up, but I think it is the extra games added to 9 ball.
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The first year for races to 9 at DCC was 2013. In the 11 years with races to 9, the tournament ended by midnight in 5 of them and went beyond midnight in 6 (including 4 times beyond 3 am).
 
iusedtoberich said:
The tournament should end at 10pm imo. You want a packed house watching in person and online. At midnight or 2am you won’t get it.
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Sure, and that can be achieved with exactly five rounds on Saturday. And that can be achieved with single elimination and 32 players or less at the end of Friday. (Have I mentioned my buyback scheme which achieves this?)
 
To Atlarge or Bob, how many total matches were there last year (since this years's data is not available).

I'm just curious if the total matches divided by the number of days would result in how many hours per match, etc. That type of data.
 
Another thing I was thinking about, the color coded 3 column chart that had each discipline and the round number and start time, etc.... I can't find it now for the life of me on the DCC homepage and sub-pages. I recall that chart went up to 10 rounds, then the finals. This is what I believe the "schedule" is based on. If I am indeed remembering correctly it went up to 10 rounds, well that hasn't been right in at least a decade. It usually goes to 14 rounds in each discipline. So the schedule itself is not even based on reality.
 
One more question, did the Banks finals happen on the day it was supposed to, or the next day? That would at least answer if the banks slowed anything down (I think).
 
I found it, it was in the "results...." page. The whole schedule is based on 10 rounds. There haven't been 10 rounds in over 10 years. Its set up for failure from the start.

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iusedtoberich said:
One more question, did the Banks finals happen on the day it was supposed to, or the next day? That would at least answer if the banks slowed anything down (I think).
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Bank finals happened on correct day. One Pocket finals looked like they would happen on Thursday. Until the final 3 players all had buybacks, which pushed the finals into Friday
 
Bob Jewett said:
Digital Pool cannot even handle scoring at 14.1. Matchroom tried them for the first UK Open. Matchroom stopped using them., and from what I saw there as a spectator, for very good reasons. I don't think there is any chance DP would implement the current DCC buyback format for one event per year, and coordinating with the current tournament management company is also unlikely.

I do like the fact that they are set up to stream many tables and do the scorepad thing, but.....
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Agree, no way for digital pool to score 14.1 as-is. The lag would never work.

But, I think you had a bad experience, that is not typical. It's used in nearly every "online" based bracket in the whole country. Yes, the score button can take 3-4 seconds to respond. But other than that, it seems really solid. I've been a player in about 15 tournaments using it, from local 16 player events to national 128 player events, and it has worked great every time.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Agree, no way for digital pool to score 14.1 as-is. The lag would never work.

But, I think you had a bad experience, that is not typical. It's used in nearly every "online" based bracket in the whole country. Yes, the score button can take 3-4 seconds to respond. But other than that, it seems really solid. I've been a player in about 15 tournaments using it, from local 16 player events to national 128 player events, and it has worked great every time.
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I imagine smaller room tournaments work sort of OK. In my view, four second response time is a sign of a broken user interface.

In the UK it was taking 30 seconds to respond. That's long enough to figure your WiFi has gone south. It was horrible for the whole tournament.

DP needs to fix something major (like server location) if they intend to do large events. DCC does not need to have a different fiasco.

CueScore, which did the first MR US Open in Las Vegas, seemed to work far better. It had a fast, compact display of matches and results. It showed estimated start times for upcoming matches for the whole day, which were all correct within about 15 minutes.

In any case, I expect that DCC will stick with the same tournament management system and personnel.

(As for 14.1, it could work even with a lag, but the interface would have to be changed to make it smarter about the rules and scoring.)
 
jeagle64 said:
Make your Fargo rate in dollars your admission would increase the pot. Buy back included. I have no idea if this would work. Lol


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Minimum entry fee with an assumed min Fargo. Your entry fee keeps doubling for every 100 points over that. I wonder how Shane would like that.
 
The Milk Man said:
The first step needs to be moving the 9 ball back to races to 7. If they wanted races to 9 after round 10 that would probably work as well. Everyone points to banks and one pocket being that hold up, but I think it is the extra games added to 9 ball.
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Race to 7 and bring in a shot clock after 1 hr. There are a few players that just drag the entire round out another 30, 45 minutes or more
 
talked to two people that just got back,
a pro and an amateur, both said the same thing

it’s so much fun! such a great time!
every pool player on the planet is there!
 
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