A. Fisher loses APA Sponsorship

Johnnyt

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If she can't keep sponsors, what pros can. She does her own thing with her school and has the cue company sponsoring her, so she'll be fine, but what about all the other young players trying to get sponsorships? You really have to love the game a lot or be a little nuts to try and make a living playing pool. I really feel bad for them. It's a damn shame. Johnnyt
 
Not knowing all the details, it's hard to draw any intelligent conclusion. It's possible, given her status as the top female player, that she was just too expensive.
Steve
 
Yeah, we don't know all the details. All you fans can however support your sport by attending tournaments and leagues and buying products made by the companies who sponsor pool.

I suggest you take a long look at the companies who do in fact give a lot back to the sport and commit to spending your pool dollars with them.

And make sure you let those companies know that you are purchasing their goods because of their sponsorship.

Without such feedback there is almost no way for a company to measure the effectiveness of it's sponsorship. In business it's called return on investment, or ROI. Not many businesses can afford to sponsor and donate without some kind of return on that investment. Simple math dictates that one must have income and profit in order to continue to spend.

For all we know that APA itself might be down in revenue due to less people willing to spend the extra money to play leagues. I know that when I played leagues I often drove an extra hundred miles a week to play. That can add up in times of high fuel prices.

Anyway, it's a bummer for Allison because I always thought she was a perfect match for the APA.
 
Yeah, we don't know all the details. All you fans can however support your sport by attending tournaments and leagues and buying products made by the companies who sponsor pool.

I suggest you take a long look at the companies who do in fact give a lot back to the sport and commit to spending your pool dollars with them.

And make sure you let those companies know that you are purchasing their goods because of their sponsorship.

Without such feedback there is almost no way for a company to measure the effectiveness of it's sponsorship. In business it's called return on investment, or ROI. Not many businesses can afford to sponsor and donate without some kind of return on that investment. Simple math dictates that one must have income and profit in order to continue to spend.

For all we know that APA itself might be down in revenue due to less people willing to spend the extra money to play leagues. I know that when I played leagues I often drove an extra hundred miles a week to play. That can add up in times of high fuel prices.

Anyway, it's a bummer for Allison because I always thought she was a perfect match for the APA.
 
It might have more to do with the profile of the average APA member. I haven't played APA for a few years, but most of the people in the area I was in barely knew who Alison was, and for the most part didn't care. They'd be more impressed with Tom Rossman's trick shots than Alison's pure skill. Alison is a great player, but not an entertainer; I think an entertainer is what the APA needs for it's target audience.
 
First I would like to say I am a big fan of Allison Fisher. But, I am not sure what she does for the APA other than put her face in their advertisements. If you go to Valley Forge every year look a what Dr. Cue does. He is at the APA booth putting on several shows every day. The only time I have seen Fisher at VF is to sell her own pictures and products.
 
kaznj said:
First I would like to say I am a big fan of Allison Fisher. But, I am not sure what she does for the APA other than put her face in their advertisements. If you go to Valley Forge every year look a what Dr. Cue does. He is at the APA booth putting on several shows every day. The only time I have seen Fisher at VF is to sell her own pictures and products.

Fisher does appearances as well.

I met her a couple of years ago at a little bar-box room near Boulder, CO, where I was living - it was a place that had APA leagues most nights of the week. I don't know that the presence of APA leagues there had anything to do with Fisher's appearance, though. I suspect it was more a girly-thing - the room owner and pretty much ALL the staff there are women. (If you're reading this - Hi Kathy :P)

She drew quite a crowd that day.
 
ScottW you say she does appear and then go on to say you are not sure if the apa league had anything to do with her appearance. If the apa had nothing to do with her appearance than how can you say she shows up. She shows up a resturants too. Does this mean the resturant should pay her an appearance fee. I still ask the same question. What does she do for the apa? I have played apa for seveal years. I do not do this because of Fisher. If Fisher was now sponsored by TAP I would not jumpt to TAP because of her.
 
As said, it's all in the details. It may have been her choice, for all we know; perhaps the APA wants a new face?

We shall see!
 
kaznj said:
ScottW you say she does appear and then go on to say you are not sure if the apa league had anything to do with her appearance. If the apa had nothing to do with her appearance than how can you say she shows up. She shows up a resturants too. Does this mean the resturant should pay her an appearance fee.

I suppose when she goes to the bathroom, the bathroom should pay her an appearance fee too? :P

You're kinda going off on an unnecessary tangent, there...

I just posted about what I knew, and stated what I *didn't* know, with regards to the original topic. Please don't fault me for not being omniscient.
 
smoooothstroke said:
She is just to good to be affiliated with the APA :P

Name ONE one billiard organization that is more successful than the APA. Do you have any idea what their annual profits are estimated at?

Think before you bash a highly successful company just because they attract bar people who also happen to enjoy playing pool. It's not their fault.
 
I had to look up omniscient. Good word. I'm sure if she could get that bathroom fee she would take it even if she was not doing anything to enhance the bathroom experience. :).
 
kaznj said:
I had to look up omniscient. Good word. I'm sure if she could get that bathroom fee she would take it even if she was not doing anything to enhance the bathroom experience. :).

whatever the reasons for her losing the sponsor, she's omnipotent so she'll bounce back. ;)
 
brutal...no matter how you spin this, this seems to be yet another indication that professional pool in the USA is having hard times.
 
uwate said:
brutal...no matter how you spin this, this seems to be yet another indication that professional pool in the USA is having hard times.

Thank you. Johnnyt
PS.That was my point.
 
Didn't know she was part of the Apa.Olhausen dropped Johnny Archer and Brunswick picked him up.Maybe she should contact Brunswick.
 
uwate said:
brutal...no matter how you spin this, this seems to be yet another indication that professional pool in the USA is having hard times.
Professional pool is in trouble in the US, but I really don't think the APA dropping Fischer's sponsorship is a reflection of these difficult times. My bet is that they thought their advertising dollar could be better spend in other ways. Most APA members couldn't care less about professional pool, it is not a new attitude it has always been the prevalent attitude in that community.
 
Allison Fisher has been a great ambassador for the APA. They were a great fit together. The most successful female pool player, with the most successful pool organization. This is especially true when you consider that the most successful professional poolplayers tour, WPBA, was also run by the APA.


Too many people on this board espouse so much negativism to fulfill their own personal agendas. And they are "rants" waiting to happen... Sadly, that's one of many aspects, that have contributed to the demise of the whole pool industry.

Sorry about my rant about the ranters.

In conclusion, the APA, WPBA, and Allison Fisher have been a model of success for professional poolplayers. I believe if pool is to ever make it, then we need to acknowledge the people, groups and organizations that have been successful. And set aside such petty ranting...
 
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